Seymour,
You knowledge of music copyright is incorrect. In many cases it *does*
matter what equipment.
I am involved with the copyright issues with songs at our church. I have
to account separately for:
1) A pre-printed copy of the song, such as a hymnal
2) A 'copy' of the song printed locally on a printer or copier
2) The display of the song on a projector during the service
And, if I record the worship services, I have to account for:
1) Did the audio recording of our people singing the song get recorded>
2) Did the video of the service actually capture display of the song by
the projector on the screen?
And, as for the recordings,
1) If I play back the audio or video to a assembly, then that is another
item to be accounted for.
2) If I make a DVD and send it to someone outside our congergation, then
it has to be accounted for.
Tony Thigpen
Seymour J Metz wrote on 02/26/2018 12:48 PM:
It's fair when the vendor assumes the risk. It's not fair when the customer has bee left
holding the bag. "product keys are just any other license enforcement" is not
even close. If I license, e.g., a copyrighted song for use in a movie, it doesn't matter
what equipment I use to play the song or to record it in the movie. The enforcement is
via legal proceedings that the vendor does not invoke capriciously, but only when he has
good reason to believe that I am in violation of the license terms.
Software keys, OTOH, can and have caused problems for legitimate users. Some
are more reliable than others, but I see nothing wrong with a shop refusing to
use a product because they are not willing to assume the risk. If you are
really confident that there is no risk, add an indemnification clause to your
contract and I'll take your confidence seriously. If you don't trust it enough
to have such a clause, why should a potential customer trust it?
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Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
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Sent: Monday, February 26, 2018 12:37 PM
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Subject: Re: Product license key program
Shmuel,
Vendors are busy in developing products, not in tracing/tracking their
clients. product keys are just any other license enforcement (eg.
electricity, water and any product that you pay per use. Capacity is just
another way to limit q measure usage. Sound fair to me.
ITschak
On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 7:11 PM, Seymour J Metz <[email protected]> wrote:
And vendors using keys sometimes victimize honest customers. BTDT,GTS.
For all of you vendors: it is a fact of life that most vendors have
competitors and that some shops will give their money to the vendor that
does not treat them like criminals. Of course, if you are willing to sign a
contract with big penalty clauses for a malfunctioning key checking routine
or key delivery system, that will help to reduce the competitive edge, but
I won't hold my breathe.
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Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
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Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2018 12:47 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Product license key program
As the author of such software, let me confirm what others have said: each
vendor does things its own way -- or perhaps not at all. CA has a central
"server" program for administering licenses; the software I am responsible
for has the licensing embedded in the program itself.
The exact technology is proprietary and a trade secret. To say "we do X
and Y and Z" would be to facilitate its defeat by a dishonest customer.
[And please, let's not start the whole "to key or not to key" discussion
again. Vendor keys are a fact of life. Yes, they can be a PITA. Most
customers are honest -- beyond honest to the point of paranoia -- but a few
are not. And honest customers sometimes make honest mistakes.]
Charles
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Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2018 3:55 AM
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Subject: Re: Product license key program
Generally which assembler macro or program sets the expiration ?
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