On TWS one nit: You can't have the hot standby be in another plex as it 
communicates with the active controller using XCF.

Probably not a show stopper.

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From:   Jesse 1 Robinson <[email protected]>
To:     [email protected]
Date:   23/03/2018 16:20
Subject:        Re: Sharing across two sysplex
Sent by:        IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]>



We have several sysplexes around the enterprise. Some resources are 
'sharable', some not. 



A. Can we use a unique TWS controller to Schedule jobs on two? 

I don't know whether you can, but you don't need to. We have one 'TWS 
controller' for the whole enterprise; it controls everything. From the 
LPAR where we run the controller, most jobs get submitted to run on other 
systems/nodes. We also submit jobs to midrange (Unix). 



B. Can we use RACF RRSF to propagate our pwd over IP between them?

We have used RRSF between sysplexes for decades. We happen to use APPC for 
the purpose, but I don't see why IP would not work. Just be aware the 
AFAIK *all* RACF values will be propagated, not just passwords. I would 
seriously question whether you want all userids from production to be 
replicated on dev. That's a business decision, not a technical one.



C. Can we share dasd (write one side at a time, not pdse) with GRS (not 
MIM)?

Absolutely not. Don't even consider it. You will go down in flames.





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-----Original Message-----

From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Scott Fagen

Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 7:51 AM

To: [email protected]

Subject: (External):Sharing across two sysplex



Caught this on the newsgroup, not the LISTSERV:



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Hello. We are in the process to separate our current SYSPLEX in two : 

1. for the production

2. for the dev/qualifications. 



A. Can we use an unique TWS controller to Schedule jobs on two ? 

B. Can we use RACF RRSF to propagate our pwd over IP between them ? 

C. Can we share dasd (write one side at a time, not pdse) with GRS (not 
MIM) ? 



Many Thank's 



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Answers:

A.  Yes, but there are recovery considerations.  Have a look at 
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__ibmsystemsmag.com_mainframe_administrator_tivoli_all-2Dschedules-2C-2Dall-2Dthe-2Dtime_&d=DwIGaQ&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=BsPGKdq7-Vl8MW2-WOWZjlZ0NwmcFSpQCLphNznBSDQ&m=SACkHo1IhhsLKFBRHQpeYGu7NlAm6NPhl86H1_9b7wo&s=y2iyJMpqwmErtFWlbl8FjYjOo-QM6oWsSz0JTm49K8s&e=


B.  Yes, but there are operational differences.  Have a look at 
http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg248041.html?Open

C.  That's a nuanced question.  Can you share DASD between sysplexes? 
Sure.  Can you count on the data on the DASD being maintained with 
integrity with only GRS, probably not.  Without something like MIM, you 
will need to use some other form of serialization that spans the 
sysplexes.  The only thing I'm aware of is to use hardware 
RESERVE/RELEASE, which is fraught with its own set of management issues. 
You can search this group for probably dozens of discussions on the 
advantages/disadvantages of a hardware vs. software solution.



Do you have a need to share tapes and tape drives?  Another set of things 
to think about



Scott Fagen

CPO - 21st Century Software





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