> IBM ALCS became zTFP. That didn't exist in 1958. ITYM zTPF.
-- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on behalf of Steve Beaver <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 2:51 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: The IRS Really Needs Some New Computers IBM ALCS became zTFP. That is generally all in Assembler, unless you use JAVA. But JAVA is way too slow -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 1:34 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: The IRS Really Needs Some New Computers > code, written in assembler, that may be 60 years old That would be 1958; at best a 7070, possibly something older. There's no 7070 emulator on modern hardware and a lot of IRS code was written for TPF, which didn't exist in 1958. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on behalf of Joel C. Ewing <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 10:57 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: The IRS Really Needs Some New Computers I read the referenced article. The title was obviously written by someone who isn't sufficiently computer-literate to understand that a computer is hardware and that application code is NOT a computer. The text of the article flat out says the IRS has repeatedly updated hardware over the years. The reported problem is that it's still dependent on some code, written in assembler, that may be 60 years old and difficult to maintain. That's an entirely different problem than the title implies. Joel C Ewing On 04/17/2018 01:14 PM, Gerhard Adam wrote: > Nonsense, the IRS is running Z/13's , etc. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Apr 17, 2018, at 11:09 AM, Allan Staller <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> The IRS has been trying to upgrade both hardware and software for at least 30 years I am aware of. >> It keeps getting shot down by Congress in the appropriations process. >> >> The opposite of PROGRESS is CON...... >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin >> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 12:34 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: The IRS Really Needs Some New Computers >> >> Mostly historical: >> https://secure-web.cisco.com/1HUD7gS18J2SMvyHer13UGZYsxceOizT4D1VOqtoFD_825N wi4JT_x6TKjOg2a64UARRNmGzasJv406vRVV6L21DtdaB6xLfwiL2_PjCIF4GiI8kpZ90mwEzoAB ARlgsrrwynvfHfsTsjpjusrvN6FLQJZBVCsQjQJj6ToGgDjL9uc_eVNjbVhQVgALPgEf7wg8Tm6V sFCXR7fiMRp2mzWpJ2ZGvP1eQcsAiLn5P5vopV3CwZN0LMp-o_YipIJqM4kFVeZ86Vet2c_wREKr Ro7IUxOb9g20qyfAMGJ0phnxKVXFQ5qNRLOg9TLIwi4Ms-wpAxpeq8ZIdkgikMmR_rur1G8NhENv wxgr0ijz16gHe_inouMmY4S3SJf0hz9NFlZlnkvwrcATMKqgXbP1H-cA/https%3A%2F%2Fapac0 1.safelinks.protection.outlook.com%2F%3Furl%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fhttp://secure-web.cisco.com/1tL8Sb1p7RZqwUCP_dOYeCDwt47rRfiPvwb9IFjg6O7-R-OqIMVvVC7GRhwX8wouMM0gN8XDNxczXp0y_Wyh8HDahfPTejwOZqyHFRMaFG0nvSMtAv6HJ3thmnDXrXsULDNgG11ESLEODjlmx6rPkTF0DwzHN2bKS5Y9dAddFTkgBDVj0VSGz39LBT4_D6W9oZDe1mclBG12pi7Wa6jriWziALOfemUUMA0XokaPmcxFAkNJCUOcb0T6WS4v1eUE3FLLC-MqI6bWHt2ZPoCfJ-IJD-jlBnXOgRkREbbyyM2T2tJo09tUUaWpZVICoXF4niip2qXjCc_Y7BlcRDcyTUj7D-DL52GcIRlRGIhREP3uJSZwQx45U2hVM03U_klT6ZFjEvKylGq2kGibv8l2exXpoDPXjM8FUrEo3Zb1w1pnB-s--4eSCM56Va5thrkXs/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bloomb erg.com%252Fview%252Farticles%252F2018-04-17%252Fthe-irs-computer-system-is- the-oldest-in-the-government%26data%3D02%257C01%257Callan.staller%2540HCL.CO M%257C792c5b7241dd415a210308d5a48970ff%257C189de737c93a4f5a8b686f4ca9941912% 257C0%257C0%257C636595832636753536%26sdata%3DP6KLIEcmkgNFa4lZeymrTbaQ4XCmyBN o13loxSL1%252F9k%253D%26reserved%3D0 >> >> -- gil >> >> ... -- Joel C. Ewing, Bentonville, AR [email protected] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
