"know your job" should not be an excuse for inconvenience.
Why realtively simple and frequently performed activities do require sophisticated knowledge? Why new user generations still have to thoroughly study ftp advanced parameters to finally find out there is no solution for downloading/uploading dss dumps?
We're talking about basic features which should be available for beginners.
Or maybe we don't want any beginners...

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Radoslaw Skorupka
Lodz, Poland







W dniu 2018-04-26 o 07:33, Peter Hunkeler pisze:
IMHO it is problem with IBM. Are you deaf?

Sometimes it is; sometimes they are. However, not this time.


People really NEED the functionality to simply make single dataset
archive, transmit it to PC *with no tricks and black magic* and then
upload it to a z/OS and unpack.


Know your job. What is difficult about running two programs one after the other 
to get the desired result?
What would be wrong with "DUMP DS() OUDATASET(some.PS) *TRANSMITTABLE*" ?
Output format should be FB (with no blocksize harcoded, any LRECL), ...

Nothing would be wrong, except the fact that the person uploading that thing to 
z/OS again would still need to understand to FTP in binary mode *and* to make 
sure the target data set *is* FB (and correct LRECL). Again, know your job.


I'm not against the desire to have an option added to DSS. My point is, you can always 
find a new situation where you need to combine programs to get the desired result. You 
naturally will use scripting (aka JCL), don't you? This is what I meant by "know 
your job".


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Peter Hunkeler

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