> On Apr 26, 2018, at 6:08 AM, Timothy Sipples <sipp...@sg.ibm.com> wrote:
> 
> ....I'm utterly mystified. Yes, OK, you have to use a DVD reader instead of
> a tape drive. There's a media change and a drive change...and so what?
> Media and drive changes are also nothing new since there have been multiple
> tape cartridge format changes in the past decades, and you're assuredly not
> using a 20+ year old parallel channel attached tape drive to read what IBM
> is sending today. IBM stopped shipping 7-track, 9-track, 3480, and 3490
> tape cartridges a long, long time ago.

OK, now I only know part of the story and can tell you what has been told to me.
We have some pretty sensitive files on our system. The owners of these files 
are zealots when it comes to security. I have no idea (and frankly don’t care 
what data are in these files). I am not allowed to say much more. The people 
who are the owners take their job seriously , They read and follow (or at times 
exceed the US government requirements on security) They take their job 
extremely seriously and spend most of their time at work making sure there are 
no holes in out security of everything and including these files. The data that 
is in these files are only known by the President of the company and I think 
one VP. The President’s boss work’s in another country and the board is 
scattered around the world, if I met one in the hallway I would not know him. 
The “board” is only known by the President. Where the money comes from that 
pays us, I have no clue as we do not (AFAIK) publish or see or exchange 
anything that would bring $$ into the company. All I know is that everyones 
gets paid (well) and there hasn’t been a person dismissed/fired/let go/asked to 
find another job. The company was in the building when I started here and it is 
cut off from the world electronically There are several power generators that 
generate our own electricity, If the city power goes out we are till fully 
functional. 
> 
> *Hypothetically* you could probably hire a trusted intermediary firm,
> staffed only with citizens of Country X with security clearance level Y, to
> accept DVD or electronic delivery from IBM, write those products to tape
> cartridges, then ship you those tapes. (In armored cars?) I guess that'd
> "work." If you do pursue that Rube Goldberg method, just get in touch with
> IBM through official channels to make sure IBM is OK with the arrangement.
> This is copyrighted and licensed software, after all, so that approach
> would require IBM's permission. (And permission from other vendors if
> you're trying to do the same thing with their software products.)

Timothy, This week I am supposed to have meetings with our network people and 
the PC people. Both of these people have been through this exercise before and 
were told NO. As I said last time I have to figure out a backup plan but from  
little option I can come up with is for some company to deliver the tape to us 
like it was done before. Time will tell. The only thing I have going is that it 
is for the MF and that might be enough.
Timothy supposedly an internal IBM person knows about our situation and will 
jump in if needed. We are a black box within IBM and they generally know what 
the company does and all have top top secret clearances.

Ed
> 
> ....Or just find the people who are already dealing with every other
> vendor's software products, and do what they're doing and have been doing
> for decades.


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