You get OPERLOG recording not just 'if' JES2 is down. OPERLOG starts recording 
very early in an IPL--before JES starts--and continues until V XCF,OFF--after 
JES has shut down. SYSLOG can eventually write out very early IPL-time messages 
stored by MVS before JES starts but quits as soon as JES terminates. That alone 
should make the effort worthwhile.   

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J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
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-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Sean Gleann
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 6:35 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: (External):Re: SYSLOG and LOGR query

OK, I understand Allan's point about there being no benefit in using CFs with 
DASDONLY, but I'd put that consideration to one side since - as I say
- I'm working with a MONOPLEX and so I don't expect to be sharing anything.
I just want to make use of the facility.

I've already put a fair amount of work in to gathering SMF data in a logstream 
and the result works fine - & is far easier to work with that the old-style 
MANx files IMHO.

With regard to the OPERLOG, that is all the SYSLOGs that are being collected 
all in one place, right?
Well, in my situation, I can't see any difference between the SDSF OPERLOG and 
the SDSF SYSLOG displays. Which makes sense to me. I've only got one source.

Kees is right - I want to be able capitalise on the "...easier to process, 
search, keep for a longer period..." bits. I want to fully automate the 
collection of my SYSLOG in daily files. I've currently got a horrible kludgy 
set-up of REXX execs and ICEMAN stuff and manual interventions to do this. 
Having seen how much easier things were with the SMF data, I moved on to 
handling the SYSLOG in a similar manner.
But I appear to have fallen in to a hole...

Sean

On 19 July 2018 at 14:22, John McKown <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 8:20 AM Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM < 
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> > He says he has a monoplex.
> > The advantage is, that you het syslog data in the operlog logstream, 
> > i.s.o. Jes2 Sysout files. That can be easier to process, search, 
> > keep
> for a
> > longer period etc.
> >
>
> ​I haven't done it, but would it also mean that you'd get the "syslog" 
> data recorded even if JES2 is down. I.e. when you are shutting down to 
> IPL, you have a more complete record.​
>
>
>
> >
> > Kees.
> >
>
> --
> There is no such thing as the Cloud. It is just somebody else’s computer.
>
> Maranatha! <><
> John McKown


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