Milk has been spilt, but I'm still sayin' that it was a bad idea pushed by 
people who had no appreciation for--probably no real knowledge of--the value of 
a userid that signals--and assists in managing--the owner's role in IT. What 
real mainframer ever woke up in the middle of night with a Eureka conviction 
that 8-character userids would solve any business problem? 

I concur that an 'email id' should follow an individual throughout one's 
corporate life. But when someone moves from Applications to Operations to 
Systems to Security, who on earth believes that a single TSO userid should be 
permanently attached to that person like Gorilla tape? And if the userid will 
morph according to role, what's the virtue of 8-characters vs. 7-characters? 
Only a manager with an admin could get turned on at the prospect.

There is no fundamental problem that 8 characters will solve. Meanwhile we're 
awaiting a fix for OA55889, which is an actual problem. 

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J.O.Skip Robinson
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-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Charles Mills
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2018 10:41 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: (External):Re: OA55889 for TSO/E in z/OS 2.3

FWIW I think there was pressure from shops with 8-character IDs elsewhere who 
wanted consistency on z/OS.

Not saying it was a good idea, or a bad idea, just sayin' ...

Charles


-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Jesse 1 Robinson
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2018 10:14 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: OA55889 for TSO/E in z/OS 2.3

I've been an outspoken critic of the move to 8-character TSO userids. Aside 
from the belief that it's hugely expensive and mostly pointless, I've objected 
to the pain and agony the change would inevitably inflict on customers 
regardless of their actual desire for longer ids. We encountered a problem in 
z/OS 2.3 of the sort I was dreading. In displaying a userid with ACCOUNT LIST() 
command, we encountered S0C4 in IKJEFA42, which support tracked to problem 
related to the handling of 8-character userids. The 7-character id that gets 
the abend has existed since the 1990's. It's just a code change fallout.

APAR OA55889 has been taken to correct this particular problem. QED.


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