I agree, during my first years at MVS, we still used microfiches to find out 
what IBM had done / done wrong (in our opinion).
It could well be at 1983 that this was hidden from us.

Kees.

> -----Original Message-----
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> Behalf Of David Spiegel
> Sent: 29 November, 2018 15:50
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: IND$FILE -- where did the name come from?
> 
> I disagree. OCO, IIRC, started in 1983.
> 
> On 2018-11-29 09:18, Tom Marchant wrote:
> > On Wed, 28 Nov 2018 16:50:07 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
> >
> >> What's the license status of IND$FILE?
> >>
> >> If it was delivered before IBM licensed software, customers and
> others
> >> are free to use it anywhre, even Hercules.
> > Browsing the load module reveals this:
> >
> > 5665-311 COPYRIGHT IBM CORP 1983,1988; LICENCED MATERIAL - PROPERTY OF
> IBM, REFER TO COPYRIGHT INSTRUCTIONS FORM NO. G120-2083
> >
> > 1983 was several years after IBM went OCO.
> >
> > That, in turn was several years after they started to license and
> charge for some software.
> >
> 
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