Hi Folks,

     Found this:  http://gsf-soft.com/Documents/IND$FILE.html

Thanks!
BobL

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 c ' auditors are unaware that many terminal emulators imbed IND$FILE' ''

AFAIK, IND$FILE has always required a license.



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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on behalf of 
Paul Gilmartin <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 2:52 PM
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Subject: Re: IND$FILE -- where did the name come from?

On Thu, 29 Nov 2018 19:06:15 +0000, Seymour J Metz wrote:

>I believe that IND$FILE is included in your z/OS license. I also 
>believe that it is long out of support and less efficient than, e.g., 
>SFTP (yes, FTP is considered insecure these days.)
>
I suspect that some auditors are unaware that many terminal emulators imbed 
IND$FILE and employees use it to circumvent policies prohibiting data transfer.

How secure is IND$FILE?  Probably as secure for transport as the terminal 
protocol.  But it still may transgress policies prohibiting data on personal 
devices (ref. HRC).


On Thu, 29 Nov 2018 08:18:49 -0600, Tom Marchant wrote:
>
>Browsing the load module reveals this:
>
>5665-311 COPYRIGHT IBM CORP 1983,1988; LICENCED MATERIAL - PROPERTY OF 
>IBM, REFER TO COPYRIGHT INSTRUCTIONS FORM NO. G120-2083
>
>1983 was several years after IBM went OCO.
>
>That, in turn was several years after they started to license and charge for 
>some software.
>
Might there have been earlier releases not so licen[cs]e encumbered and/or 
available in source?

-- gil

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