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IBM themselves refer to the 1401 as a mainframe ....

Joe

On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 10:56 PM Joel C. Ewing <[email protected]> wrote:

> Well, ...  the IBM 1401 was built in a substantial frame; and in the
> context cited it appears to have the only (hence surely the "main")
> computer present.  Other members of the same general family like IBM
> 1410 were certainly regarded as a mainframe.  I'm pretty sure any
> computer large enough to require one or more dedicated frames  was
> called a "mainframe" in those days.  When mini-computers first came out,
> they weren't considered mainframes because they were typically only the
> size of a single rack and could even be carried.
>
>  With a recent MS in Comp Sci, I found myself in the U.S. Army 1969-1971
> (started in Infantry but ended up as head Company Clerk at HHC of "The
> Old Guard" at Ft Myer VA).  I remember reading some memo that came down
> from above the Battalion suggesting the possibility of using a
> punched-card-based system for maintaining and producing our Company
> Roster.  That might have involved an IBM 1401, but my impression at the
> time was that the functions they were describing could easily have been
> done with just unit-record equipment.  Nothing ever came of it while I
> was there.   It would have saved us the periodic tedium of one or more
> man-hours of manually typing up a new roster in which few names changed,
> but given that our time was cheap and available, there would have been
> no way to cost-justify using a process that would save our time but slow
> down the overall process by requiring outside resources.   Clearly, at
> that time, punched card decks were one of the databases used for
> tracking military personnel.
>     Joel C. Ewing
>
> On 12/26/18 2:42 PM, Seymour J Metz wrote:
> > What is he smoking? Since when was the 1401 a mainframe?
> >
> >
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> > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
> > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
> >
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> Joel C. Ewing
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