Hi Arthur,

Thank you, always open to history lessons ๐Ÿ˜Š
Didn't mean to attempt to give an actual explanation as such.. was just 
thinking of it in a comical sense, that's all.

โ€“ Vignesh
Mainframe Infrastructure

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
Arthur Fichtl
Sent: 27 January 2019 13:11
To: [email protected]
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: how many OSes run on IBMz

BS = bull $hit

Meaning,.. one is talking meaningless, foolish, s#it. So either BS or horse 
s#it.

Seeing a name like BS2000 or BS3000 made me think of a hypothetical marketing 
department where their product is so useless, but they proudly sell it, by 
naming it BS2000.

They call the new and improved version BS3000.

It's like how the wall street laughs at the rest of the world when they name 
things CDOs, etc.

Sure, CDO has a normal meaning but I'm sure some guy in a suit somewhere knows 
its *real* expanded name (inside joke).

โ€“ Vignesh

Mainframe Infrastructure

Vignesh, thatโ€™s not correct.

As I worked (in an earlier life) both with BS2000 and BS3000 I could enlight 
you:

Beginning 1966 Siemens/Germany started with manufacturing Computers whose 
design was developed by RCA (USA). It was named BS1000 and was similar to the 
IBM/360 (but not identical).

When IBM started selling the /370 machines which where equipped with a virtual 
memory hardware architecture and ran the successor Operating System named 
OS/VS, Siemens began to produce its own Hardware and developed an OS called 
BS2000, as well equipped with virtual memory.

Regarding the /370 you might want to have a look to this article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_System/370

BS3000 was marketed by Siemens (its original name was FACOM and the 
manufacturer was Fujitsu). It had no relations to BS2000.

It was sort of Clone of MVS and IBM sued Fujitsu for copyright infringement; 
there were rumors that IBM demanded (and received) 1 billion US$ from Fujitsu 
which implied also that the Japanese company was allowed to sell their machines 
in the domestic market.


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