One task I perform as part of reporting - I run amblist against the run-time 
loadlib to see what fixes have made it to prod/test - although CA has a utility 
to interrogate libraries for its products to get a clean list of what fixes (or 
perhaps just the most recent) Have been applied to the runtime modules

The utility is CAMODID

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-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
Allan Staller
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 9:35 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Newbie SMP/E questions

Reject would occur after the restore.
However, another semi-forgotten item has be paged into my virtual storage.

The "2 PTFs" do not need to be restored. They can be re-implemented with APPLY 
REDO.

HTH,

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
Mike Schwab
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2019 11:56 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Newbie SMP/E questions

I think you can REJECT specific PTFs.

On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 10:07 AM Bob Bridges <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I'm the Top-Secret admin for a client whose system programmer retired a 
> couple years ago.  The client tapped another employee to take his place, and 
> she's learning the job with frantic haste but insists with some justification 
> that she's not a system programmer yet.  Me, I came into security through the 
> applications-development side so I'm not even close.
>
> Together she and I are trying to learn SMP/E.  The immediate purpose is so we 
> can apply some TSS-related PTFs, but really, it's become clear to me that we 
> need no excuses to make it a priority; SMP/E is kind of important.
>
> I have embarked on a serious reading of the SMP/E User's Guide, but I still 
> need help.  I'll limit myself to a handful of questions to start with:
>
> Question #1) We started by applying a PTF - call it A for simplicity - and 
> its prerequisite B.  We did that last August and then the project languished 
> for the sake of other priorities.  Now we're working on it again and we want 
> to restore those two PTFs and do the APPLY again.  Why?  Well, partly because 
> it was 'way back in August and we're uncertain about exactly how we did it 
> back then.  We know more now.  Partly because we know more now and we want to 
> practice it better.  I dunno, partly because we just want to.  I think maybe 
> we bypassed some HOLDs back then too.
>
> Anyway, we attempted the RESTORE, but we got lots and lots of error messages 
> saying we need to include other PTFs in the RESTORE.  Some of these have an 
> indirect connection to A and B; B superceded at least three of them, for 
> example, which I can see were applied some years ago.  Others have no 
> relation to our PTFs that I can discern.  I haven't yet found the place in 
> the User's Guide that explains these relationship and their relevance.  Can 
> someone give a helpful explanation?
>
> Question #2) So far as we can tell by issuing LIST XREF commands, whoever ran 
> this thing in the past never did any ACCEPT, ever, except for the original 
> function code.  I see at least 11 PTFs that were applied (including our two), 
> but the distribution library shows no PTFs for any module I've yet LISTed.  
> If true, does that mean that to do a RESTORE of our two PTFs we'll have to 
> RESTORE everything back to the plain-vanilla base?
>
> Question #3) My partner the not-sysprog has in mind that maybe we need to set 
> aside this CSI (which is dedicated to Top Secret) and create another one 
> starting with the base software and build up from there.  I didn't realize 
> this could be done, but she thinks she can do it.  If it'll work, I like it; 
> we'll know in that case what we have, which we do not at present.  Anyone 
> have any thoughts on this plan?
>
> Question #4) This is a less-important add-on:  In both the online 
> documentation and the User's Guide, I read if I'm doing a RESTORE and name 
> PTFs A and B, including the GROUP operand causes SMP/E to add whatever other 
> PTFs are required for various reasons.  It doesn't seem to, though; it names 
> them and complains about them, but doesn't add them to the list.  Have I 
> misunderstood something?  I'm loathe to believe the documentation is flat 
> wrong.
>
> If you're getting ready to send rushed messages saying "DON'T DO ANYTHING 
> UNTIL YOU'VE CHECKED...", relax; we're planning to go slow.
>
> ---
> Bob Bridges, cell 336 382-7313
>   [email protected]
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>
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