Configuration control is easier if everything in a target library gets there 
through SMP.

IMHO documentation should precede implementation, with n immediate update if 
anything changes. I've heard that there's a round tuit shortage.


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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on behalf of 
Mark Zelden <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2019 4:08 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Assembly JCL for tpx 5.4

What I said below about "good installation documentation" applies.  Usermod or 
not
in the previous install, that's so important.   Too bad more and more I see
people with the "just install and get it working" mentality and they don't
document anything and put things in their own personal libraries etc.  :-(
That's probably where your missing source code is - in someone's personal
library that may be long gone.

Do you have the macro libraries for both versions to compare and find how
many changes there actually were?  You may be lucky and the exits could
work under 5.4, but what about the next upgrade?  Eventually you'll have
to bite the bullet and re-write the exits (do you even understand what
they are doing exactly with no source code) or try to disassemble them
using the HLASM toolkit disassembler if you are licensed for it or try
the free one on the CBT.

Best Regards,

Mark
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On Thu, 9 May 2019 22:24:20 +0400, Peter <[email protected]> wrote:

>We have some user exits used for TPX 5.2 and unfortunately we don't know
>where the source codes are located.
>
>Is it ok to just copy over to 5.4 ?
>
>On Fri, 3 May, 2019, 3:09 AM Mark Zelden, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 2 May 2019 15:44:14 -0500, Michael Cleary <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >If the product is installed with SMPE best practice would be to install
>> the exit via an SMPE USERMOD.
>> >
>>
>> Not a bad idea, but I don't consider that necessary if the product doesn't
>> come with an LMOD
>> for that exit in the product loadlib that is being replaced by the one you
>> want to create.  There
>> is no chance that product maintenance will regress the exit which is the
>> main reason you would
>> want a usermod.  Good product installation documentation that says there
>> is an exit in use
>> and putting it in a concatenated loadlib or even directly into the product
>> loadlib is fine as far
>> as I'm concerned.  Just so the next pour sole that has to upgrade the
>> product next knows
>> there is an exit and where the source code and asm/lnk JCL is.
>>
>> But that's just my opinion.  Creating the usermod is more trouble than I
>> want to go through
>> if I don't have to do it to protect the integrity of the product
>> installation.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Mark
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