Week long AMODE 32 thread?  Only a week on IBM main, I think.  Wrong
idea for sure.  Running with 32 bit literals and AMODE 64 would work,
but since address literals are such a small part of programs it does
not make sense and I think would risk branching out of your 4GB memory
area.  The 380 group has been arguing with Paul for months.

On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 12:20 PM Mike Hochee <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Thanks for all the responses on this one, especially Jim and Peter, and all 
> the links. I unsubscribed from this list some months ago and re-subscribed 
> last night, now realizing how much I might have missed (week-long AMODE32 
> threads notwithstanding)
>
> The info I initially received was from an IBM gent in the z processor group, 
> and was consistent with the Processor Optimization doc pg 31. Some time ago I 
> converted most of our MVCL*s over to MVC and XC instructions, resulting in 
> modest cpu savings. Since that time, I began checking for page alignment of 
> source and target addresses and routing to MVCL* rtns when page aligned, and 
> lastly tried to make things more eligible for ADM or the 'near-memory engine' 
> with BNDRY=PAGE which may have run headlong into fragmentation issue 
> described or...
>
> >  Whether use of the near-memory engine helps or hurts your performance
> > depends on how/when you were using the storage before the MVCL/MVCLE,
> > and how/when you use it after the MVCL/MVCLE.
>
> Thanks again!
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> Behalf Of Don Poitras
> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 10:58 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: BNDRY=PAGE possible CPU hit?
>
> Expanding the ... leads one to (there might be more, but this is the one I 
> found):
>
> https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/files/form/anonymous/api/library/ff4563be-756e-49bf-9de9-6a04a08026f1/document/07c69512-ac74-4394-87b9-a61ea201347e/media/IBMzSystemsProcessorOptimizationPrimerv2.pdf
>
> Gratuitous wrap noted.
>
> Other files in this "community" can be found at:
>
> https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/groups/service/html/communityview?communityUuid=9a17556c-6094-4201-acd0-d8125a3fa0db
>
>
>
> In article 
> <of5917c456.92910c5f-on0025840b.004f9464-8525840b.004f9...@notes.na.collabserv.com>
>  you wrote:
> > See page 31 in this document:
>
> > https://www.ibm.com/.../IBMzSystemsProcessorOptimizationPrimerv2.pdf
>
> >  Whether use of the near-memory engine helps or hurts your performance
> > depends on how/when you were using the storage before the MVCL/MVCLE,
> > and how/when you use it after the MVCL/MVCLE.
>
> > Jim Mulder z/OS Diagnosis, Design, Development, Test  IBM Corp.
> > Poughkeepsie NY
>
> > "IBM Mainframe Discussion List" <[email protected]> wrote on
> > 05/30/2019 11:12:13 PM:
>
> > > From: "Michael Hochee" <[email protected]>
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Date: 05/31/2019 12:31 AM
> > > Subject: BNDRY=PAGE possible CPU hit?
> > > Sent by: "IBM Mainframe Discussion List" <[email protected]>
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > > I recently added the BNDRY=PAGE parameter to a set of STORAGE
> > > OBTAINS which acquire storage areas of various sizes from several
> > > low private  subpools. My intent was a reduction of CPU used by
> > > subsequent MVCLE instructions, as ADM would more likely be employed
> > > for MVCLE executes, since the storage areas involved were page
> > > aligned (apparently an ADM pre-req.)  Unfortunately my initial
> > > testing revealed a significant increase in CPU consumption, rather
> > > than a reduction.
> > >
> > > I did a few searches of the IBM-MAIN archive and found nothing
> > > involving increased CPU overhead resulting from BNDRY=PAGE usage.
> > > Any thoughts on what might be causing the elevated CPU?  Again, the
> > > only change made was adding BNDRY=PAGE. (I have since backed the
> > > change off, tested, reapplied the change and tested with the same
> > results)
>
> --
> Don Poitras - SAS Development  -  SAS Institute Inc. - SAS Campus Drive
> [email protected]           (919) 531-5637                Cary, NC 27513
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