Just to step back a thought or two: Why is it that MVS Utilities is a bad name?
Why is it that ADRDSSU requires a PDF advanced search after downloading all the z/os 2.x PDFs before you can find it? Sent from my iPhone — small keyboarf, fat fungrs, stupd spell manglr. Expct mistaks > On Jun 16, 2019, at 2:52 PM, Charles Mills <[email protected]> wrote: > > Exactly! You hit on one of the other problems: when you find an answer, how > do you know it is THE answer? > > OGET. OPUT. ISPF 3.3. Etc. > > In fact the original question here is a matter of finding AN answer > (CSVLLIX1 -- but no good, it only does LLA) and then it turning out there > was ANOTHER answer that did indeed fill the bill. > > Charles > > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Seymour J Metz > Sent: Friday, June 14, 2019 12:10 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Need for a z/OS "master index" (Was RE: LOAD/LINK exit) > > I thought that the program to copy a dataset was IDCAMS. IEHMOVE? IEBCOPY? > The COPY command from COPY, FORMAT, LIST and MERGE (sic)? > > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > ________________________________________ > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on behalf of > Charles Mills <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, June 14, 2019 12:17 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Need for a z/OS "master index" (Was RE: LOAD/LINK exit) > > Yes! I remembered this exit being added to z/OS. I looked and looked and > looked at Installation Exits and when I could not find it, figured I must > have read more into CSVLLIXn than really existed. > > z/OS desperately needs some sort of "master index." IBM has the AI to be > able to put up a site that could answer questions like "how do I monitor > every FETCH or LOAD?" (or, for that matter, "how do I convert RECFM=U into > RECFM=V?"). The platform really needs it. How often do we see questions here > where the answer is "it's right in the manual! RTFM you dummy!" The problem > is "how would I know to look in that manual?" > > My favorite example: if you were new to this platform, how would you ever > guess that the tool to copy a file (oops, dataset) was named IEBGENER and > was documented in a manual named "DFSMSdfp Utilities"? Wouldn't it be great > if a newbie could just go "Watson! How do I copy a file?" > > Just as an experiment, I just keyed "how copy a z/OS file" into KC and got > lots of hits, but not one of them was for IEBGENER. Changing file to dataset > at least gets me close: the fourth hit is for pervasive encryption and > IEBGENER. > > Maybe we just need to learn to use KC more. You know what? I keyed the > original question, "how monitor every fetch and load" into KC and the very > first hit was for CSVFETCH. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
