I think you might be right, but I need help please??  For my management class, 
as I didn’t set this up, it was my predecessor and didn’t even think about this.

Expiration Attributes,
,,Expire after Days Non-usage  . .,NOLIMIT      ,   ,(1 to 93000 or NOLIMIT)
,,Expire after Date/Days . . . . .,NOLIMIT       ,,(0 to 93000, yyyy/mm/dd or
,                                             ,NOLIMIT)
, ,
Retention Limit  . . . . . . . . .,NOLIMIT      ,   ,(0 to 93000 or NOLIMIT)

What are the normal settings?  I am thinking     1  , 0 , NOLIMIT?

Can someone give me a hint?

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Hi Terri,

Couldn't see if this has already been answered, but if everything looks 
correctly defined within RMM and HSM, could it be the scratch expiry setting on 
the VTS scratch category?

It can be set to keep scratch tapes for a specified time, so although scratched 
in RMM they can't be used until the VTS expiry time has elapsed.

thanks,
Simon.


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Thanks for the answers so far, but I don’t think I am explaining it correctly.



DFHSM scratches the tape, RMM shows as scratch also, but within I guess my VTS 
volume definitions it does not scratch.



So in ISMF, Then option 2 for Volume, then Option 3 for Mountable Tapes, it is 
not scratch. This is what I have to fix every Monday after DFHSM returns tapes, 
because of 1999/365.



I only keep 15 days RETPD in my dumpclass, so now every week it deletes about 
50 tapes, but even though RMM shows as scratch if I display my available 
scratch tapes, they are no scratch.



This requires my to ALTER the volume and change to S - Scratch status to match 
the current RMM tape status.



Oh I should mention all my tapes are in one pool, HSM included.



So I am missing something, but since this is my first VTS and RMM setup, I am 
not sure what?



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Hi Terri,



In your first update you indicated you were having trouble with dump tapes.  Is 
it only dump or is it also ML2 and Backup tapes also?  There is a separate 
setup for dump tapes in the DEFINE DUMPCLASS eg EXPIRATIONDATE, RETENTIONPERIOD 
& AUTOREUSE these allow you to manage your dump tapes differently than your 
other tapes.



I would suggest as opposed to using VRS's use the EDM (External Data Manager) 
support added in RMM and discussed here 
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.ibm.com_support_pages_tapes-2Dreleased-2Dscratch-2Dwithout-2Dhsm&d=DwIGaQ&c=fXqKLe8hYaTUGdMO87BomA&r=N8X6WUEdDcmMkF942cLcZpTmK1om3UZ98XkAPjjFZFA&m=NgdcxmPFo3UNOVAqr9AaX4Ojtqc4TAHmUsIGxinuyOk&s=ntuFDsbGrlRxEVdRpmxze8MnVr2xWhT6Q_iFcpZxWxg&e=



You can also use some of the FIXCDS commands here to see if HSM still knows 
about the tape(s).  You should also make sure the EDGTVEXT is installed 
correctly as documented in RMM because that is what HSM needs to call to 
communicate a volume to scratch to RMM.



In addition you could refer to APAR OA52541 for additional information.

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www-2D01.ibm.com_support_docview.wss-3Fuid-3Disg1OA52541&d=DwIGaQ&c=fXqKLe8hYaTUGdMO87BomA&r=N8X6WUEdDcmMkF942cLcZpTmK1om3UZ98XkAPjjFZFA&m=NgdcxmPFo3UNOVAqr9AaX4Ojtqc4TAHmUsIGxinuyOk&s=ITk8R8O1Yo5OmyMYUoiv8l66hTzhF58_OO3IE7UlF_w&e=



We had times when the VRS's were not set up properly to manage the tapes and 
found they could get released to scratch prematurely so we put in the EDM 
support to allow HSM and RMM work better together.



Hope this helps.



Max Smith DFSMS Development



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