Whoops! Yes, I meant Marib.
-- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of zMan [zedgarhoo...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 7:13 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Attitude of companies toward mainframers working from home? Oh. I actually thought you maybe meant Madrid. MariB <> MariD, eh? On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 6:19 PM Seymour J Metz <sme...@gmu.edu> wrote: > Yes, I know that root, but see https colon > //http://secure-web.cisco.com/1E2IH3iN_X3Ubw0IJUcWyjpKMxW0WIOSWptzvIARKge-tGAUSeD1S4EY76A13p7pm4tDTW2_76_xb_MKf-F9ssJKmuMM047EP9xqQ3tT7XTtXFva4aEc1LJ3oe8uAKbsMnIcGrWdIFb8mviviDfuxO24-CydGRsd9n8SsWPJMGvof_Mc9v0oGJcPqLLazcxaj0FcDr6A8lnWCBh2fzOdTXiU2aDW3cI_WG9QsmNsdxbIqPAWSY8KN9XH8j_ZIRLsH_DgjvrsbB9g0di-2ZgbD9mQ1AL2XFW6VMEaUm3ZWDmp6jS-IZrHkSfgADKvD6_xepVLyZQMf37fdU7zCsBPbUEgp6I-CURh85ZFb01qRUGS5plBzH0gfcCFdJHa8NyAcppm3_KpjAJsOj6M-rplylBbu6EiyTdkP7cevcFoV5jT6xm5qpVeY7-1ra32314Jf/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.maribrestaurant.com%2F; > better yet, try the lunch buffet. FWIW, wiki transliterates it as Ma'arib. > > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > ________________________________________ > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf > of zMan [zedgarhoo...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 5:49 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Attitude of companies toward mainframers working from home? > > > https://secure-web.cisco.com/1KXwo3z-ZJwpa-4qFEcWBtgFUtSGboWpRU-aF_DOD5_KvWjZq8Hr0D4T6BVPxZsKrG6IUbv-Lt_CGF1wmcivBUTnHe4RB46Tu1ZBjkplAg78Rh45XNBi_vs9UFrJ_p7fC077QcZNRaHmmF5-wwthJih0vhtmdHIhflDhtVkxdptthYLy-bbYT2tRbaT8Y0FpaRqi4oC6eQK_e4vI0RRWrr3sMVe4MRmLXBzHXo261eVQAp5pfLcKMebBgKFVFmeO5rSIk4cerh8CRnHfDUsIUiGXE6QJC5o8v4X16C5bTxUA_aBVsxle0r5XmRE-53wzsMnaiwkumXpfIh1hdT3vhTHaMDx4TZOV3kJneRfducXw_kO-mIKiK2UPx22e-4pcAoPY9JH24Gj97O77pDtMOxUElerLIqoImrbKs2VX35JjYMt2WIHaapwT9gbZQEVeC/https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FMarid > ? > > On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 11:11 PM Seymour J Metz <sme...@gmu.edu> wrote: > > > Typo for WFH. Work From Marid might be acceptable, but McD is a place > that > > I only enter under threat of lethal force. > > > > -- > > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > > > ________________________________________ > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf > > of zMan [zedgarhoo...@gmail.com] > > Sent: Monday, March 9, 2020 9:40 PM > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Subject: Re: Attitude of companies toward mainframers working from home? > > > > WFM? Work From McDonalds? > > > > On Sun, Mar 8, 2020 at 4:42 PM Seymour J Metz <sme...@gmu.edu> wrote: > > > > > I would prefer WFM with an option to occasionally come to the office, > but > > > that assumes that I have a permanent location in the office where I can > > red > > > things. Back in the old days when I had to read dumps over the > telephone > > > the distraction of other conversations was an issue. It doesn't matter > > > whether the other telephone calls were business or personal, either way > > > they were a distraction and soured me on the idea of cubicle farms. But > > > when you're collaborating it's nice to meet in person once in a while, > > even > > > if the team has access to technologies like electronic whiteboards. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > > > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________ > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on > behalf > > > of Bob Bridges <robhbrid...@gmail.com> > > > Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2020 3:58 PM > > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > > Subject: Re: Attitude of companies toward mainframers working from > home? > > > > > > I think WFH is one place where, especially, everyone's different. For > a > > > few years one of my employers had a bunch of us developers working in a > > > cubicle environment where the walls were only waist-high. I've heard > > since > > > then that many folks hate that sort of thing, but the most inconvenient > > > part of it, for my money, was that I had less space on which to pin up > > > reference pages and racks for various bits of equipment (pens, a forms > > > ruler, highlighters etc, fashioned from repurposed paper clips). What > > most > > > people complained about, the distraction, turned out not to bother me > at > > > all; there was a continual background of light chatter in which I could > > > participate or not. I found it very pleasant. I'm not saying there's > > > anything wrong with you if you don't; just "folks are different". > > > > > > (Some years ago _60 Minutes_ apparently did a segment on adults who > > > probably had ADD when they were kids, before ADD was a thing. I missed > > it, > > > but for months after that friends and family members exclaimed to me > "Did > > > you see that 60-Minutes episode? They had a picture of Bob Bridges on > > that > > > show!". I gather people who had ADD before it became a fashionable > > > diagnosis simply had to learn to focus without drugs. Whether for that > > or > > > some other reason, noise just doesn't bother me.) > > > > > > So you'd think I'd hate working from home, but no. Sometimes I play > loud > > > music (and sometimes I set the work aside, pick up my recorder and wail > > > along with the music), sometimes I put leftovers in the microwave, > > > sometimes I take a call from one of my kids. But mostly I'm at my > desk, > > > plugging away until all hours of the night. I have to remind myself to > > get > > > up and leave the house occasionally - which I read recently is a good > > idea > > > for WFHers anyway. > > > > > > Maybe it's like the old principle of "dressing for work". One > argument I > > > used to hear in favor of wearing ties at work is that it's a sort of > > mental > > > discipline: If you're dressed to relax, you won't be mentally prepared > > to > > > work. The argument made sense to me, but once my employers started > > > allowing jeans and T-shirts at work I found that (in my case at least) > it > > > didn't hold water. Again, I don't doubt that some sort of recognized > > work > > > attire works better for some people, but I don't seem to be a clothes > > > person. YMMV. > > > > > > Just fortunate, I guess. If I hated my job, I'll bet I'd be much more > > > opinionated about which conditions help or hinder. > > > > > > --- > > > Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 > > > > > > /* Democracy is where you can say what you think even if you don't > think. > > > */ > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On > > > Behalf Of Farley, Peter x23353 > > > Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2020 14:00 > > > > > > I disagree that it takes more "concentration and effort" to work at > home > > > than in one of those "bullpen" offices that so many companies now seem > to > > > favor, with little or no private or semi-private space for any > employees. > > > > > > I have had WFH options as an ordinary applications programmer since the > > > late 1980's at various employers, starting back when a 9600 baud > dial-up > > > connection was the gold standard. I would far rather be working at > home > > > than in a "bullpen", as I find those offices far too noisy and > > > concentration-killing than any distractions at home could ever be. > > > > > > I always found that I got far more work done at home than at any > office. > > > YMMV I suppose, but that has been my experience. > > > > > > I guess I am also lucky that my current employer already had a large, > > > distributed, and robust VPN infrastructure well suited to dispersing > far > > > more of the workforce to WFH than they did even before the coronavirus > > > event. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On > Behalf > > > Of Steve Beaver > > > Sent: Friday, March 6, 2020 10:03 PM > > > > > > Working from home takes a lot of concentration and effort. It’s not > easy > > > but I’ve done it for years > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > > > > > -- > > zMan -- "I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it" > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > -- > zMan -- "I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it" > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- zMan -- "I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
