In a lawsuit against Neon Enterprise (John Moores) the court ruled in favor of IBM. They had to take zPrime out of the market. There was also a permanent injunction issued against Neon.
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 30. April 2020 um 15:32 Uhr Von: "Steve Beaver" <[email protected]> An: [email protected] Betreff: Re: LzLabs Seymour LzLABS (John Moores) fought all his battles in the 90's against IBM and won. -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 8:11 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: LzLabs Google for "look and feel lawsuit". It's illegal to run z/OS on an unlicensed platform; it is perfectly legal to implement the z/OS interfaces that you need. How well, e.g., UNICICS, runs is a separate issue. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [[email protected]] on behalf of Peter Baumann [[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 11:34 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Aw: Re: LzLabs As their own release says, it's only 2.5k MIPS of batch COBOL Swisscom was going to EOL anyway. Emulating the entire ecosystem and all the third-party tools seems like insane. They call it re-hosting. IMHO you can re-host something written to open standards. Otherwise you have to deal with legal issues and since it's all propritary and patented they must have reverse engineered entire zOS. Can you do it without infringing on patents ? And even if you can, how many man years would you need ? Harsh reality these days is funding is becoming scarce. Peter Baumann Gesendet: Dienstag, 28. April 2020 um 17:11 Uhr Von: "Ed Jaffe" <[email protected]> An: [email protected] Betreff: Re: LzLabs On 4/28/2020 7:49 AM, Jake Anderson wrote: > They migrated some swiss based telecommunications company. 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