Well done Joel....I agree , But I can help to to be curious about the future of AI. a bit of Isaac Asimov ....
Scott On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 9:25 AM Joel C. Ewing <[email protected]> wrote: > And of course the whole point of Colossus, Dr Strangelove, War > Games, Terminator, Forbidden Planet, Battlestar Galactica, etc. was to > try to make it clear to all the non-engineers and non-programmers (all > of whom greatly outnumber us) why putting lethal force in the hands of > any autonomous or even semi-autonomous machine is something with > incredible potential to go wrong. We all know that even if the hardware > doesn't fail, which it inevitably will, that all software above a > certain level of complexity is guaranteed to have bugs with unknown > consequences. > There is another equally cautionary genre in sci-fi about society > becoming so dependent on machines as to lose the knowledge to understand > and maintain the machines, resulting in total collapse when the machines > inevitably fail. I still remember my oldest sister reading E.M. > Forster, "The Machine Stops" (1909), to me when I was very young. > Various Star Trek episodes used both of these themes as plots. > People can also break down with lethal side effects, but the > potential damage one person can create is more easily contained by > other people. The only effective way to defend again a berserk lethal > machine may be with another lethal machine, and Colossus-Guardian > suggests why that may be an even worse idea. > Joel C Ewing > > On 5/11/20 4:54 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote: > > Strangelove was twisted because the times were twisted. We're ripe for a > similar parody on our own times. > > > > > > -- > > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > > > ________________________________________ > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [[email protected]] on > behalf of Farley, Peter x23353 [[email protected]] > > Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2020 11:39 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: Developers say Google's Go is 'most sought after' > programming language of 2020 > > > > For relatively recent fare, I agree 100% - "Person of Interest" leads > the pack. My favorite oldie -- "Let's play Global Thermonuclear War . . . > " (War Games), right after Dr. Strangelove of course, simply because it was > so twisted. > > > > Mutual Assured Destruction indeed. Is SkyNet far away? > > > > Peter > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On > Behalf Of Bob Bridges > > Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2020 10:21 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: Developers say Google's Go is 'most sought after' > programming language of 2020 > > > > I've always loved "Colossus: The Forbin Project". Not many people have > seen it, as far as I can tell. > > > > The only problem I have with that movie - well, the main problem - is > that no programmer in the world would make such a system and then throw > away the Stop button. No engineer would do that with a machine he built, > either. Too many things can go wrong. > > > > But a fun movie, if you can ignore that. > > > > --- > > Bob Bridges, [email protected], cell 336 382-7313 > > > > /* The only thing UFO aliens deserve is to be ignored...and when we > finally develop the right missiles, to have their smug, silvery little > butts shot down. Not a single reported UFO sighting -- if true! -- > describes the behavior of decent, polite, honorable visitors to our world. > -David Brin in a 1998 on-line interview */ > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of scott Ford > > Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2020 11:38 > > > > Like the 1970s flick , ‘Colossus , The Forbin Project’, > > > > Colossus and American computer and Guardian a Russian computer take over > saying ‘ Colossus and Guardian we are one’, or better yet My favorite show, > ‘Person of Interest’..... > > -- > > > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the > addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. > If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized > representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any > dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. 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