Can I second this. This will also my employers plans
to ditch VM as the auditor will not allow us to use
unsupported software on mission critical systems

--- "Jones, Ian H" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Thank you Mark. This is directed at IBM -
> 
> Auditors do not care tuppence whether a product is
> 'stable'. If a
> product is used to support a production workload
> they expect it to be
> *supported*. An auditor's reaction will vary from an
> 'observation' that
> an unsupported product is being used, to a
> recommendation that use of
> the product be discontinued. In a business
> environment where auditors'
> reports can cause a company to lose a contract, no
> one can afford to use
> unsupported software.
> 
> 
> Ian Jones
> UKOSG - Infrastructure Specialist
> EDS
> ITO - UK mainframe Software Services
> 4 Roundwood Avenue
> Uxbridge, UB11 1BQ
>  
> Phone: +44 (0)20 8754 5636
> 
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.mainframe.uk.eds.com
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gillis, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 19 June 2006 22:24
> Subject: Re: RES: VSE/VSAM for VM
> 
> I received the following reply from Gerhard Zierl
> from IBM in April:
> 
> "...The news is that after assessing the situation
> the product stays
> withdrawn from market. Toady VM/VSAM is used in very
> stable environments
> by customers who have the product already licensed
> and installed for a
> long time, IBM hasn't seen new customers to this
> product for a long
> time. Therefore we do not see any problem associated
> with the withdrawal
> from market..  z/VM 5.2 customers can use their old
> VSAM distribution
> tape which they have received with their current
> version of z/VM.
> 
> Same is true for end of service. The last APAR was
> 2001 (more than 5
> years). Before that there was one (new function)
> APAR in 1999 and 2
> defect APARs in 1996. VM/VSAM is a very stable
> product. In addion
> VM/VSAM is used by customers in mature and stable
> environments, no new
> applications, no major changes, etc... I would
> assume the same applies
> to your product.  So the risk of encountering a
> severe problem is
> extremely low.
> In case customers decide they have a critical need
> to have service
> beyond the EOS-date, then there is in general an
> option to ask IBM for a
> charged service extension agreement."
> 
> Mark.
> 


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