Wouldn't a simple 'PIPE command RELEASE X  | hole | append CP DET 120 | hole' 
be more straightforward? Yes, it has 2 holes vs 1 spec, but I would guess that 
they would be faster; however, overhead would be higher . Order would be 
guaranteed because the "append" would not be run until there was an eof on the 
first "hole". Besides, I get errors when I try to run that not "command RELEASE 
X"

FPLCOM112E Excessive options "RELEASE X"         
FPLMSG003I ... Issued from stage 1 of pipeline 1 
FPLMSG001I ... Running "not command RELEASE X"

You need to make it "... literal RELEASE X|not command|..."    
Regards,
Richard Schuh

 -----Original Message-----
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Harding, Mike
Sent:   Thursday, July 06, 2006 1:54 PM
To:     [email protected]
Subject:        Re: a really little pipe question

 Coding it as two pipelines doesn't guarantee the proper sequence
though, and you may _really want_ the release to occur before the detach
if everything's happening inside some exec.  "PIPE not command RELEASE
X|spec /DET 120/|CP"


Mike Harding
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-----Original Message-----
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Kris Buelens
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 12:45 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: a really little pipe question

Most of the time there is not even a need for a HOLE stage.

HOLE is doing work: it is eating records, only the writing is skipped. 
When HOLE is ommitted the stage to its right doesn't even try to write 
records.  Next point: never use the CMS stage, use COMMAND instead if
you 
want to be sure of what happens.  So, instead of:
  PIPE CMS REL X | HOLE | CP DETACH 120 | HOLE
a tiny bit less expensive and safer:
  PIPE (end ?) COMMAND RELEASE X ? CP DETACH 120

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