I don't think we've ever had to take one.  The PSW restart dump has
worked here.  We had to do one of those when we had a sick DS8000.  I
guess if the dump space had been on that device, then SA would have been
useful.

It would, however, take an act of god to ship an actual tape out of the
datacenter.  We would have to load that back to DASD anyway.


Marcy Cortes


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-----Original Message-----
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Alan Ackerman
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 09:56
To: [email protected]
Subject: [IBMVM] Stand Alone Dump to Disk

We were asked to update our stand-alone dump procedures. We don't use 
stand-alone dump very often, and the list of tape drives to use had
gotte=
n 
badly out of date.

We discovered that z/OS can take a stand-alone dump to disk.  We get
more=
 
involved in DASD address changes than in tape address changes (we have
to=
 
move the data), so we would find it easier to keep a list of DASD 
addresses up-to-date. We run "lights-out" data centers, so operations 
would prefer not to have to mount a tape half-way across the country.

Is there some way to take a stand-alone dump to DASD for VM? If not,
woul=
d 
this be worth a SHARE requirement?

z/OS apparantly requires stand-alone dumps more often that VM. When a
z/O=
S 
system fails, it "varies itself out of the plex" -- at which point our =

operations is instructed to take a stand-alone dump. 

I'm not sure when we really need a VM stand-alone dump. Usually a PSW 
restaret will get us a dump. How often do you use stand-alone dumps?

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