Richard,

All the devices coded in the imbed file as offline_at_ipl are still seen as
DEV OFFLINE by the system even if we code sensed 0000-ffff in the config
file, as you show. At this time I suppose I will use the cp q all offline
cmd, extract all the DEV and vary on them. Not very nice.

Alain

 


Le 21/03/07 21:36, « Schuh, Richard » <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit :

> Go ahead and let the devices be sensed. We take a slightly different approach.
> We have
> 
> Devices ,        
> Online_at_IPL   0000-FFFF,
> Dynamic_I/O     0000-FFFF,
> Sensed          0000-FFFF
> 
> Followed by (it happens to be the last entry in the CONFIG)
> 
> IMBED DEVICES OFFLINE
> 
> Where the devices offline file lists in agonizing detail which devices are to
> be taken offline. All of the devices are sensed, so we need not mess with
> RDEVICE at all except for a few unsupported devices that we have. We took
> this approach because of the demands placed on us by the DASD Storage
> Management Group (MVS centric), who give us a scattering of disks intermixed
> with those belonging to that other system, and by other people who think that
> MVS disks should never be online to a VM system. They happen to be the tail
> that wags the dog.
> 
> This doesn't eliminate the need to have an EXEC or Pipeline to vary on the
> ones that you do not want attached to system during the IPL, but it does
> insure that the device blocks are built according to the data returned by the
> sensing operation during roll-call. We do not have the problem of duplicate
> volume serials, so that is not a concern of ours.
> 
> Regards, 
> Richard Schuh 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Alain Benveniste
> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 1:03 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: System Config : suggestion (corrected)
> 
> James,
> 
> I didn't give enough infos : the problem is how to treat duplicate volsers
> as Berry says Offline during IPL but get them Online just after.
> 
> I have tested a similar solution where the idea was to pipe cp q da offline
> and vary on the result. The problem is that what we code with Offline_at_ipl
> is not sensed which means that the DASD are seen as DEV xxxx OFFLINE. Cp q
> da offline cmd sends nothing back. To 'resolve' this the only way I found is
> to let the Offline_at_ipl and add the Rdevice type dasd for all the ranges.
> That's an other problem because Rdevice only supports 256 dev by cmd...
> 
> Alain
> Paris, France
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Le 21/03/07 15:47, « Stracka, James (GTI) » <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit :
> 
>> Interesting.  We reverse the order:
>> 
>> Devices ,
>>   Offline_at_IPL  0000-FFFF,
>>   Sensed          0000-FFFF,
>>   Online_at_IPL   0400-0408 ,
>>                   0A00-0AEF ,
>>                   A9A0-A9AF ,
>>                   AC30-AC3F ,
>>                   AFAF      ,
>>                   BC90-BCA8 ,
>>                   C940-C94F ,
>>                   CD40-CD5F
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>> Behalf Of Berry van Sleeuwen
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 9:40 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: System Config : suggestion (corrected)
>> 
>> 
>> Hello Alain,
>> 
>> We use an input file to select what DASD addresses should be online
>> after 
>> an IPL. The file is basically a Q DASD. The file is read and attaches
>> the 
>> DASD to system, dedicated DASD is left free and DASD that is not used is
>> 
>> set offline. The only thing we have to do is (re)build the DASD file
>> when 
>> a volume has been added or deleted. (PIPE CP Q DASD | > DASD FILE D) It
>> saves us from changing the system config every time we change the DASD
>> configuration. If the files are located on shared DASD the DASD FILE can
>> 
>> be named something like VMLXHW1 DASD for the VMLXHW1 node.
>> 
>> This doesn't work when we have duplicate DASD volumes that are required
>> during IPL. We have some VM's that still use the default zVM440 DASD
>> volume ID's. When a default 440W01 or something like that has not been
>> relabeled the 'wrong' addresses must be set offline in the system
>> config:
>> 
>> FBVM03: Devices ,
>>    Online_at_IPL   0000-FFFF,
>>    OFFLINE_AT_IPL  2100-21DF,
>>    OFFLINE_AT_IPL  21EA-21FF,
>>    OFFLINE_AT_IPL  2200-239F,
>>    OFFLINE_AT_IPL  23A4-23FF,
>>    Sensed          0000-FFFF
>> 
>> Regards, Berry.
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