Maybe not addressed to the most-affected list, but IBMVM subscribers are 
affected, too.  Especially those getting into Linux for System z for the 
first time.  It took us around a year to get the first P.O.C. server 
installed because our Internet Security group would not permit a CD drive 
on anyone's PC to be connected to the mainframe LAN - not even for a the 
time it takes to copy the ISO images.

Eventually we received a DDR copy to tape of a running Linux FTP server 
which we quickly restored in our VM system, and by jumping through 
extensive hoops (inserting the CDs on a Linux blade server, then mounting 
them on USS in z/OS, and then again mounting them on the new Linux for 
System z FTP server to actually begin the installation).  What a nightmare 
and what an absolute waste of time to begin a P.O.C (all in the name of 
"security"!).

I began suggesting the following on July of 2006.  Thus far there has been 
little-to-no response...
If Novell wants to play in the z/VM market, they should provide an easy 
way for existing z/VM customers to download a stripped-down SLES FTP 
server using tools that every z/VM customer already has available: the 
z/VM TCP/IP FTPSERVE server, and (admittedly something requiring a 
download from the IBM VM Download site): the CMSDDR package. 

The new-to-Linux on System z customer could run CMSDDR to download a 
running Linux FTP server, bring that up, follow rather simple instructions 
to customize it for their network, and then bring it up.  Novell could 
also supply access to the ISO images such that they could be downloaded 
directly through either the CMS FTPSERVE svm, and/or, the newly installed 
bare-bones SLES FTP server.  There would  be no need to permit access from 
someone's CD or DVD drive to the "mainframe network", and... no need to go 
though MS Windows to perform the downloads... ugh!

Before Mark Post moved to Novell, perhaps there were insufficient z/VM 
skills to make this or other ease/speed-of-installation techniques 
available at Novell.  Now there may be a light shining at the end of the 
tunnel?

Mike Walter 
Hewitt Associates 
Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily 
represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates.




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When I first got my mitts on this stuff I had awful trouble getting
anything working until Rob walked down the corridor and helped me out.
We then had a series of discussions concerning a bog-standard DDR
image that would get people up and running.

That was nearly 10 years ago. Given the recent discussion about having
to send notes to Novell to generate sufficient interest to get
something similar, it depresses me to see just how far things have
come in 10 years.

--
Rod (Moan over - back to fixing Access dBs (sigh)...)



 
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