EXACTLY!

-----Original Message-----
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Dave Jones
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 10:50 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Formatter for/Linux Minidisk from CMS


I think the problem Jim is trying to avoid is the fact that Linux at 
boot time will generate a ton of less than useful console messages if it

finds that some of it's dasd devices don't have at least some low level 
format already in place....lots and lots of "CCW command rejects" and 
i/o errors. If you have a number of Linux images all generating these 
console messages at boot time, your automated VM console management can 
become overwhelmed.....

Mike Walter wrote:
> OK, time to show my Linux ignorance...
> 
> I've never understood why Linux needs CMS to format the MDISK before 
> Linux
> formats it.  What a waste of I/O's (even if z _does_ perform I/O VERY,

> VERY quickly!).  What a waste of time, and what a set of cludgy
processes.
> 
> What's the deal?  Why can't dasdfmt just format what it's given 
> without
> CMS having to "prep" it?  What would it take to change dasdfmt to do
so?
> 
> Mike Walter
> Hewitt Associates 
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> Kludge yes, one pack; no.  Because of striping we would need at least
> thirteen differently sized template minidisks.  Unless we could format

> just one very large minidisk and image copy as little as needed.  I 
> believe CMS gets just a little bent out of shape if one did this.
Would 
> not z/Linux too? 
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> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Behalf Of Imler, Steven J
> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 9:46 AM
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> Subject: Re: Formatter forz/Linux Minidisk from CMS
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> Kludgy workaround ...
>  
> Can you "correctly" format one "template" pack ... then use HiDRO
> DUPLICATE (or DDR) to clone the pack with the end result being that
the 
> packs are pre-formatted for the z/Linux guests?
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> JR (Steven) Imler
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> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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> Behalf Of Stracka, James (GTI)
> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 09:39 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Formatter forz/Linux Minidisk from CMS
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> Does anyone have or know of a utility that will z/Linux format a 
> minidisk
> from CMS?
>  
> We have a requirement to format many minidisks for z/Linux usage.  
> Many
> z/Linux routines flood the console if we just give the guests
unformatted 
> minidisks.  We have been CMS formatting them before sending them to
the 
> z/Linux guests, where it might be days before the owners z/Linux
format 
> them.  I would like to be able to z/Linux format the minidisks from
CMS 
> before giving the disks to the guests.
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