We had these conversations here, but there are pitfalls.  

If you format the first couple of cylinders, it would probably fool the
kernel, but then the disk only APPEARS to be properly formatted to
z/Linux.  If the owner of the z/Linux guest does not remember to
reformat it after it is given to the guest, they could easily forget
that most if it is still unformatted.  They might even get far enough to
pvcreate it, and add it to a VG, only to find out when they run mkfs
that it is mostly bad.  

At BEST, because the labels and fake VTOC only show a disk of a few
cylinders, the remaining space might be ignored.   At worst, you'd get
the error messages again.  We know dasdfmt issues some kind of call to
return device geometry through the kernel, but whether that's used only
for formatting, or by the kernel itself, is not clear.

If you CMS format the disk, it is good enough for the kernel not to
issue the error messages, but still reports bad whenever you run a
z/Linux utility against it.

Our z/Linux guru had a look at the dasdfmt utility source code.  It
doesn't really DO anything itself, it uses an "ioctl" call to the kernel
driver to perform the actual formatting.  The channel programs that do
that are all in the kernel.

-----Original Message-----
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Alan Altmark
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 11:07 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Formatter forz/Linux Minidisk from CMS


On Friday, 11/30/2007 at 09:58 EST, "Stracka, James (GTI)" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Kludge  yes, one pack; no.  Because of striping we would need at least
> thirteen  differently sized template minidisks.  Unless we could
format 
just 
> one very  large minidisk and image copy as little as needed.  I 
> believe
CMS 
> gets  just a little bent out of shape if one did this.  Would not
z/Linux 
> too?

Formatting just one cylinder on the pack should be sufficient since that

will write the volume label and let Linux recognize it.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott
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