Michael--You can do a DIRM CMS L CONFIG* DATADVH * (DA. Mine, and I
think that this is the standard case, is on the DIRMAINT 11F disk. Also
I run with SORT_DIRECTORY= YES, SORT_COMMENTS_WITH_STATEMENTS= YES
(should not matter because we do not have SYSSAFIN specified, but who
knows), and SORT_BY_DEVICE_ADDRESS= NO.
I don't have any problem with comments being relocated when I do a DIRM
GET followed by DIRM REP. All comments stay where I put them.
Jim
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Hi,
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Is there a command that can tell what these parameters are set to or do =
I need to check all the mdisks that DIRMAINT has access to.
=20
I started this thread and what we want is simple. For our VSE machines =
what we want is WYSIWYG. When I want to do a 'DIRM REPLACE', DIRMAINT =
should replace the current source directory entry as given to it if =
there are no errors in it (how about having an 'ASIS' option?). =20
=20
I know sometimes adding a comment for a new minidisk is sometimes =
preserved in the source and sometimes I'll see the comment somewhere =
else in the directory entry. If I could find out the logic of how =
DIRMAINT does the shuffling, maybe I could follow its rule(s) in order =
to get the source looking the way I want. =20
=20
Thanks,
=20
Mike=20
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Sent: February 11, 2008 11:31 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: How comments treated by DIRMAINT
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The first question I have is, what do you both have your =
"SORT_DIRECTORY=3D" and "SORT_BY_DEVICE_ADDRESS=3D" parameters set to, =
in CONFIG DATADVH or it's minions? These may or may not be the issue.
Second, someone mentioned comments taking space in the object =
directory... My impression / hope would be that comments would be =
stripped from the information before building the object directory, =
since there is no actual purpose for them there, and there isn't a =
convenient tool to take an object directory and turn it into a source =
directory. Are the comments actually left in the object directory? If =
so, MAINT is one of the worst offenders, leaving in the hundreds of =
links that it uses during the installation as comments.
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On 2/11/08 9:07 AM, "Colin Allinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I have just been doing some checking because we don't seem to have this =
problem of comments moving around within the directory entry.=20
Initially, I thought this was because we use special local procedures =
that interface with DIRMAINT but I just tried some vanilla GET's & =
REPL's without any movement of comments at all.=20
I guess this must be some DIRMAINT configuation item that causes the =
difference for us, but I am not sure which.=20
Note: Comments DO get repositioned when creating a new directory entry.
Colin Allinson
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Is there a command that can tell =
what
these parameters are set to or do I need to check all the mdisks that =
DIRMAINT
has access to.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I started this thread and what we =
want is
simple. For our VSE machines what we want is WYSIWYG. When I want to do =
a ‘DIRM
REPLACE’, DIRMAINT should replace the current source directory =
entry as
given to it if there are no errors in it (how about having an =
‘ASIS’
option?). =A0<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I know sometimes adding a comment =
for a
new minidisk is sometimes preserved in the source and sometimes =
I’ll see
the comment somewhere else in the directory entry. If I could find out =
the
logic of how DIRMAINT does the shuffling, maybe I could follow its =
rule(s) in
order to get the source looking the way I want. =
=A0=A0<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">The IBM z/VM Operating =
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On =
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> February 11, 2008 =
11:31 AM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
[email protected]<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: How comments =
treated
by DIRMAINT</span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>The first question I have =
is, what
do you both have your “SORT_DIRECTORY=3D” and
“SORT_BY_DEVICE_ADDRESS=3D” parameters set to, in CONFIG =
DATADVH or
it’s minions? These may or may not be the issue.<br>
<br>
Second, someone mentioned comments taking space in the object =
directory... My
impression / hope would be that comments would be stripped from the =
information
before building the object directory, since there is no actual purpose =
for them
there, and there isn’t a convenient tool to take an object =
directory and
turn it into a source directory. Are the comments actually left in the =
object
directory? If so, MAINT is one of the worst offenders, leaving in the =
hundreds
of links that it uses during the installation as comments.<br>
<br>
-- <br>
<font color=3Dblue><span style=3D'color:blue'>Robert P. =
Nix</span></font>
<=
font
color=3Dteal><span style=3D'color:teal'>Mayo Foundation =
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sp; &nbs=
p; ^^-^^
<br>
<font color=3Dolive><span style=3D'color:olive'>"In theory, theory =
and
practice are the same, but </span></font><font
color=3Dmaroon><span style=3D'color:maroon'>“Join the story... =
Ride
Ural.”<br>
</span></font><font color=3Dolive><span style=3D'color:olive'>in =
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and practice are different." <br>
</span></font><br>
<br>
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On 2/11/08 9:07 AM, "Colin Allinson" =
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D1 face=3DVerdana><span =
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font-family:Verdana'><br>
</span></font><font size=3D2 face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;
font-family:Verdana'>I have just been doing some checking because we =
don't seem
to have this problem of comments moving around within the directory =
entry. <br>
</span></font><font size=3D1 face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:Verdana'><br>
</span></font><font size=3D2 face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;
font-family:Verdana'>Initially, I thought this was because we use =
special local
procedures that interface with DIRMAINT but I just tried some vanilla =
GET's
& REPL's without any movement of comments at all. <br>
</span></font><font size=3D1 face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:Verdana'><br>
</span></font><font size=3D2 face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;
font-family:Verdana'>I guess this must be some DIRMAINT configuation =
item that
causes the difference for us, but I am not sure =
which.</span></font><font
size=3D1 face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana'> <br>
<br>
</span></font><font size=3D2 face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;
font-family:Verdana'>Note: Comments DO get repositioned when creating a =
new
directory entry.<br>
</span></font><b><font size=3D1 color=3D"#1a61a9" face=3DArial><span
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