I see. The way we use VM:Secure, nopass is granted through the rules
facility, so the ESM does handle the requests to XAUTOLOG a user. Since
the requesting user's logon was authenticated by the ESM and there is a
permitting rule that is also enforced by the ESM, is that authorization,
authentication, or perhaps half-authentication? In other words, does
having to get past the ESM alter the status?

Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark
> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 2:58 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: RACF and MAINT
> 
> On Tuesday, 07/01/2008 at 04:56 EDT, "Schuh, Richard" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > "IMO, autologging a user should not reset the password count."
> > 
> > Has your humble opinion changed? Or exactly what did you 
> mean? Perhaps 
> > that if authentication requires no password, it should not 
> reset the 
> > count?
> 
> No, my opinion has not changed.  If there is no password then 
> there is no authentication, there is only authorization.  QED.
> 
> Alan Altmark
> z/VM Development
> IBM Endicott
> 

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