I think though this only support Alans statement. If managment are happy with lots of Intel boxes (ours are) then they will stick with them. If they are not they look for a different solution. We certainly have lots of Wintel boxes, but there again we now have a lot more apps than we ever had on the zVM box.

Dave.

Huegel, Thomas wrote:
And are these new or 'refreshed' mips?
I know of a company that dumped their mainframe for all INTEL boxes...
Some of the reasons were laughable, i.e. the MP3000 took up too much space . 
the MP3000 used too much power .. The MP3000 was too slow..
The only real valid reason was that (at the time SAP wasn't certified foe 
LINUX/390)was to reduce staff and used canned software (SAP).

That was about 7 yrs. ago.
I understand that now they have INTEL servers hanging from the ceiling, have 
upgraded power and air conditioning, hired more techs.. the list goes on.

Now with a new management team in place plans are to go back to a mainframe 
z/10 and consolidate the INTELS on z/LINUX guests..

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On Sun, 7 Sep 2008, Mark Post wrote:

On 9/7/2008 at  9:02 AM, in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, william JANULIN
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The other question is, what percentage of mainframe sales is 'replacement business' like new cars. How many 'new' mainframe shops have been added to the fold?
According to my contacts at IBM, a few, and up from the previous year.
We're talking single digits.  The good news (for me, anyway) is that they
were Linux-only shops.  No z/OS.  I'm also aware of a couple of existing
z/OS shops that are talking about going to Linux-only.  I don't think
that's a good idea technically, but I can understand it would save a lot
of software licensing costs.


Mark Post


Wish I could get management here interested in Linux on the z. We had it
for a short time. Somebody had the idea that Linux on z could be use to
consolidate WINDOWS workloads directly (like VMWare on Intel, but using
Linux on z under z/VM). We do have some RHEL servers in the Intel-space. I
don't know what is "in vogue" now in that area. The previous Intel
infrastructure person wanted to replace everything possible with AIX.

I would rant more, but I get rather nasty.

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