(Anyone remember using the old tty interface?)

Yup, back in the (very!) early 80's I recall having a "hardcopy
terminal" in addition to the green-screen on our 3032.  I think we saved
a LOT of trees by getting rid of that paper-burner!  :)

-Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[email protected]] On
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Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 3:27 PM
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Subject: Re: lOGON WITH OUT ipL'ing


Yup, that pretty much covers it. If CMS wasn't running, you'd have to
keep hitting enter to see if any messages arrived, etc. (Anyone remember
using the old tty interface? I had an exec that would SLEEP so I would
get messages and allow me to enter some commands)


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-----Original Message-----
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Jack Woehr
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 2:18 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: lOGON WITH OUT ipL'ing

Michael Coffin wrote:
> The "hang" you are referring to is the VM READ that occurs after you 
> IPL CMS, right?
>
Yah, you and Richard Schuh have confirmed what dawned on me finally
today :)

So why does CMS alternate between "VM READ" and "RUNNING" if I just sit
there popping CR's into the terminal?

My guess: D'oh, CMS is "RUNNING" and then you hit CR which "interrupts"
it (because this is the historical CP handling of terminals, that
programs "run" and are "interrupted" by the terminal) and that's when
you get VM READ and then you hit CR and CMS is "RUNNING" again?

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