I would suspect that the entire PAGE extent on the volume was not 
formatted before attaching it to the system.

Brian Nielsen


On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 13:58:27 -0500, Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) 
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Hi
>
>Thanks for the information. I did find another problem related to my
>paging. I was having issues with my QREP guests, could not start up the
>APPLY process for the application, slow logging on, etc. This is on the
>LPAR that I mentioned that was doing the paging. I decided to restart
>the z/Linux guest. When I issued the stop from the Operator console I
>received the following error just before the guest came down:
>
>HCP415E   Six continuous paging errors have occurred on DASD nnnn volume

>
>          volser.    
>
>This error occurred on the two page packs that I just added yesterday
>(VP51A0 and VP51A1). I believe I followed the appropriate steps to
>defining and starting the new page data sets.
>
>
>q alloc page                    
                         
     
>                EXTENT     EXTENT  TOTAL  PAGES   HIGH    %   
>VOLID  RDEV      START        END  PAGES IN USE   PAGE USED   
>------ ---- ---------- ---------- ------ ------ ------ ----   
>530PAG 5104          1       3338 600840 301180 594838  50%   
>VP517A 517A          1       3338 600840 338482 600840  56%   
>VP517B 517B          1       3338 600840 334685 600838  55%   
>VP5198 5198          1       3338 600840 337162 600839  56%   
>VP5199 5199          1       3338 600840 333914 600840  55%   
>VP5109 5109          0       3338 601020 301240 598846  50%   
>VP51A0 51A0          1       3338 600840  75804  76125  12%   
>VP51A1 51A1          1       3338 600840  76068  76734  12%   
>                                  ------ ------        ----   
>SUMMARY                            4694K  2049K         43%   
>USABLE                             4694K  2049K         43%  
> 
>If you notice there is no error being displayed next to the entry of the

>Q ALLOC PAGE display?
>
>Since I saw no other cause for the strange behavior of the Linux guest I

>am assuming that the page error was causing this. Any ideas what might
>have happened with the page and any recommendations. I have not had any
>problems since the restart of the guest but I am wondering if the paging

>errors are still there on these packs.
>
>
>Thank You,
> 
>Terry Martin
>Lockheed Martin - Information Technology
>z/OS & z/VM Systems - Performance and Tuning
>Cell - 443 632-4191
>Work - 410 786-0386
>[email protected]
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[email protected]] On
>Behalf Of Tom Duerbusch
>Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 11:45 AM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: Paging
>
>If you don't have a product, and you want to find out who is actively
>paging:
>
>Do an IND USER userid for each machine:
>
>ind user linux69                   
                         
        
>USERID=LINUX69  MACH=ESA STOR=160M VIRT=V XSTORE=NONE   
            
>IPLSYS=DEV 0150 DEVNUM=00014              
                         
 
>PAGES: RES=00035557 WS=00040960 LOCKEDREAL=00000013 RESVD=000000
00  
>NPREF=00006334 PREF=00000000 READS=00167708 WRITES=00143507
><========
>XSTORE=000016 READS=109416 WRITES=243855 MIGRATES=134423   
         
>CPU 00: CTIME=96:56 VTIME=017:43 TTIME=064:50 IO=961712   
          
>        RDR=000000 PRT=000469 PCH=000000         
                   
>
>Look at the READS and WRITES on the 4th line.  That is total page reads
>and writes.  
>Put this in a REXX exec, and do a delta after, say 60 seconds.  The one
>that is changing the most, is the one that is paging the most.
>
>But I don't know what good that information would do.  Paging isn't due
>a single virtual machine, but rather the sum of the working set size of
>all machines vs available storage.   Chances are, the largest guest
>machine will page the most as it has the most pages to keep in storage.
>
>
>Tom Duerbusch
>THD Consulting
>
>
>>>> "Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)" <[email protected]>
>2/10/2009 8:04 AM >>>
>Hi
>
> 
>
>I seem to be doing a lot of paging currently on my z/VM 5.3 system I am
>running multiple Linux guests including a large Oracle guest (40 GB
>memory size). How can I find out 1) who is doing the majority of the
>paging and along with that 2) I believe that some of the paging slots
>are old data in other words the pages are not going away after a task is

>complete how can I research this. The Linux guests have not been
>recycled but I thought if they had allocated the slots that after a task

>within the Linux guest completed that the slots would be reclaimed. Any
>thoughts on all of this would be appreciated.
>
> 
>
>Thank You,
>
> 
>
>Terry Martin
>
>Lockheed Martin - Information Technology
>
>z/OS & z/VM Systems - Performance and Tuning
>
>Cell - 443 632-4191
>
>Work - 410 786-0386
>
>[email protected] 
>
> 
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