Thomas is correct, it's the PC ownership that matters. I was making an
unconscious assumption that if Joe is installing z/VM on the company's
mainframe, that he's using a company-owned PC to do it. We have a rule
here that personally-owned PC's are not allowed on the company network.
I wonder what the lawyers would say about using trial software for a
couple of hours, then using it again a year later for the same thing.
Is that one continuous trial? If the PC software vendor puts out a new
version during that year, and you use the newer version for the second
install, you'd have a pretty good argument that it's two trials.
Dennis O'Brien
"If I'd only followed CNBC's advice, I'd have $1 million today, provided
I'd started with $100 million." -- Jon Stewart
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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 14:38
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [IBMVM] VM 5.4 first/second level installation
Might need a lawyer here.. Joe doesn't need to own a z/VM system. Joe
justs needs to own the PC that zftpserver is running on..
Not hat it matters much. You use it for a couple of hours and then your
done with it anyways for a couple of years.
-----Original Message-----
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
[mailto:[email protected]]on Behalf Of O'Brien, Dennis L
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 4:07 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: VM 5.4 first/second level installation
The key phrase is "Free for personal use". Unless Joe owns his
own z/VM system, he's working for an organization of some sort. The
free version is specifically not allowed for corporate or institutional
use. Educational and non-profit institutions are encouraged to contact
the vendor for "special pricing".
Dennis
"If I'd only followed CNBC's advice, I'd have $1 million today,
provided I'd started with $100 million." -- Jon Stewart
________________________________
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 13:55
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [IBMVM] VM 5.4 first/second level installation
Pretty sure the basic package is free forever. From their
website.
zFTPServer Suite Free covers basic FTP Server functionality with
top notch server performance, ease of use and reliability. Free for
personal use the zFTPServer Suite Free version will however have
limitations in the number of accounts and advanced functionality
offered.
-----Original Message-----
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
[mailto:[email protected]]on Behalf Of Ward, Mike S
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 3:36 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: VM 5.4 first/second level installation
It's not free, you just get a 30 day trial.
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 3:18 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: VM 5.4 first/second level installation
You will need an FTP server running on your PC. I found
an excellent freebie at zftpserver.com it made life so much earier.
-----Original Message-----
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
[mailto:[email protected]]on Behalf Of [email protected]
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 3:03 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: VM 5.4 first/second level installation
List Members,
I can use some expert advice as a first time
installer of z/VM. After reading the Guide for Automated Installation
and Service, I had decided on using the Second-Level DVD Installation
method from VM Minidisk. Although, after making a simple calculation, I
realized that it would take me about 80 hours to upload all the DVD
files to the First-Level minidisk. Given that my 3270 emulation program
(Extra) does not support file lists, I decided to abandon this idea.
Since we do not have an FTP server attached to
our VM systems I thought that a First-Level DVD Installation from the
HMC would make more sense. My goal would be to install first-level and
then test second-level. I am not certain as to whether or not this
sounds reasonable and if there is some who would provide some guidance
as to how this could be accomplished. Pointing out a manual reference
would be most helpful but any and all suggestions are welcomed.
Joseph Di Pippo
Operating Systems Programmer III
FRIT Computing Services
Hardware Support
1-201-531-3820
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