In this case, it was a SEND CP userid LOGOFF. IBM has fixed many of these over 
the years. Now, they are not nearly so frequent as in the past.


Regards,
Richard Schuh





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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Wandschneider, Scott
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 3:23 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: LOGOFF/FORCE PENDING

Richard,

Please keep the list posted with any updates to this subject.  I, for one, am 
*very* interested in your PMR.  As I recall this has been a nagging problem 
since the VM/370 days.  As I update our VM systems I am taking the FORCE 
command away by changing its privilege class, but in the process have upset 
operations and others as their procedures actually call for forcing users off, 
instead of logging on, then logging them off.

Thank you,

Scott

From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Schuh, Richard
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 4:38 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: LOGOFF/FORCE PENDING

We have a user in the subject state. Track shows an interesting thing. In the 
VMDBK display, the storage is shown to be -107373M. That's right, a whopping 
small negative number. Most of the rest of the VMDBK is zeros with no devices 
and no I/O pending. Is this a normal value for that field in these conditions? 
It looks like the system owes the user more storage that there is configured in 
the LPAR.

I will have the OPERATOR take a SNAPDUMP and open an incident.

Regards,
Richard Schuh




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