No, it was using TCP/IP, IUCV, DASD and SPOOL. From TRACK, all of the devices 
had been detached from it. I suppose that it is possible that CP transfers the 
devices elsewhere but leaves a skeleton VMDBK so that pointers in the various 
control blocks that have outstanding responses do not point at whatever 
replaced the VMDBK.


Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marcy Cortes
> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:31 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: LOGOFF/FORCE PENDING
> 
> Was it using tape? 
> 
> 
> Marcy
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard
> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 12:47 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [IBMVM] LOGOFF/FORCE PENDING
> 
> For all of you who are sitting on pins and needles awaiting 
> the outcome of our incident, you can get off the pin cushion 
> now. After several hours, but before a dump could be taken, 
> the logoff completed. There is no incident. The secret is 
> still safe. (Get that grin off of your face, Chuckie!)
> 
> Regards, 
> Richard Schuh 
> 
>  
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dave Wade
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 4:32 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: LOGOFF/FORCE PENDING
> > 
> > I do, but only for fun....
> > 
> > Dave
> > G4UGM
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
> > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard
> > > Sent: 01 October 2009 00:11
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: LOGOFF/FORCE PENDING
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Are you still using a system that has the DMK prefix?
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > Richard Schuh
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
> > > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of P S
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 3:58 PM
> > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > Subject: Re: LOGOFF/FORCE PENDING
> > > > 
> > > > On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Rich Greenberg 
> > <[email protected]> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > On: Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 03:22:49PM -0700,Wandschneider,
> > > > Scott Wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > } Please keep the list posted with any updates to this
> > > subject.  I,
> > > > > for } one, am *very* interested in your PMR.  As I recall
> > > this has
> > > > > been a } nagging problem since the VM/370 days.  As I
> > > update our VM
> > > > > systems I am } taking the FORCE command away by changing
> > > > its privilege
> > > > > class, but in } the process have upset operations and
> > > > others as their
> > > > > procedures } actually call for forcing users off, instead
> > > > of logging
> > > > > on, then logging } them off.
> > > > >
> > > > > Scott et al,
> > > > > Have the operators do a:
> > > > >
> > > > >   CP SEND CP target LOGOFF
> > > > >
> > > > > BEFORE doing a FORCE.  Much safer.
> > > > 
> > > > Doubtful. Since DMK, a FORCE has consisted of "Set the 
> logoff bit 
> > > > and stack a CPEBK to go to the dispatcher". So no real
> > > difference.
> > > > 
> > > > Now, in DMK-time...
> > > > =
> > 

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