> As I said I know there are multiple ways to do what I wanted.
Right.  With z/VM and most other OS'es there are many ways to skin a cat - 
if you're into that sort of thing.  Chuckie may be into that, but lets not 
go there.

Nonetheless, having the discussion on the list serves to enlighten z/VM 
newbies with several additional ways to "prepare the meal".  Learning from 
those who have trod the road of real experience often results in better 
understanding than obtuse written doc.  Of course, IBM's pubs are rarely 
obtuse - but instead serves as example which most other vendor's should 
emulate, including a certain two-letter ISV which shall remain nameless.

For those who have not discovered it yet, there is excellent WEB BROWSER 
ACCESS to the IBMVM discussion list.  It provides outstanding HISTORICAL 
SEARCH CAPABILITY - so that when you have a question, you can search the 
full history of the list (even before its name change to IBMVM) for 
previous similar discussions of related (or ANY!) question.  See: 
 
                 http://listserv.uark.edu/archives/ibmvm.html


Mike Walter
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As I said I know there are multiple ways to do what I wanted. I actually 
use several different ways of doing it depending on the situation.

I have a small 5.4 running 2nd level that I test apply maintenance on 
before any 1st level install. It has a virtual CTC to 1st level RSCS and I 
send files back and forth that way.

When I roll out new upgraded releases with a new res, I use the shared 
minidisk (R/W on 1st level, R/O on 2nd) to move files up and swap if I 
need to go the other way.

In this case I was going to have 6 different systems IPL'd under the same 
id (obviously not at the same time). Felt the PUNCH was easiest. 


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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Fran Hensler
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 12:13 PM
To: [email protected]
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I've been using this method ever since I migrated from VM/SP 3 to 4.
Works great!  Only once did I screw up because I had both minidisks in R/W 
mode and it was easy to recover by reformatting the minidisk.

/Fran Hensler at Slippery Rock University of Pennsylvania USA for 46 years
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On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 09:34:57 -0600 Mike Walter said:
>  {snip}                                              I'll offer another
>simple method disk-to-disk copy technique (usable by those not 
>permitted to download tools): Define a minidisk on both systems, on the 
>same DASD at the same extents for both systems.






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