When I did it to the system, I was trying to SHUTDOWN RSCS.  Probably had a 
brain check and thought I was talking to RSCS but instead  I got to CP.  I 
think it's dangerous that the SHUTDOWN command is in any PP.

Jim 
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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Schuh, Richard [[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 11:38 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Hi everybody
  
Does anyone give RSCS class A privileges? If so, the probably have to seek =
re-employment frequently :)

Regards,=20
Richard Schuh=20

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System=20
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of James A. Bohnsack
> Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 7:46 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Hi everybody
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> I've accidentally shutdown the main production system "once",=20
> as has every systems programmer with whom I worked or who=20
> worked for me has done.  Only once tho.  There are or were =20
> couple of gotcha's introduced by IBM.  One is the fact that=20
> the official way to stop RSCS is with the SHUTDOWN command. =20
> This note of caution is now in the RSCS SHUTDOWN HELP:
>=20
> Use care when entering the SHUTDOWN command. If you=20
> accidentally enter it
> without the appropriate RSCS prefix, it is treated as a CP=20
> command and  =20
> passed to CP for processing. If you have the proper CP=20
> privilege class, =20
> this command would stop your z/VM operating system.          =20
>           =20
>                                                              =20
>          =20
> One other place or thing where SHUTDOWN is or was used is the=20
> old,old PC3270 or maybe that was the 3270PC.  It was a late=20
> 80's PC/XT that came out of Kingston, I think, rather than=20
> Boca.  To park the hard disk so the cleaning people wouldn't=20
> bump the stand it was on, you issued a SHUTDOWN command.  One=20
> of the sysprogs I workied with SHUTDOWN VM rather than her=20
> PC.  The next day there was a SHUTDOWN EXEC on the y-disk=20
> that asked you if you "really wanted to do that".
>=20
> Jim
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> ________________________________________
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [[email protected]]=20
> On Behalf Of Rich Greenberg [[email protected]]
> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 4:59 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Hi everybody
>=20
> On: Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 10:44:34AM -0800,Schuh, Richard Wrote:
>=20
> } It isn't a matter of trust, it is a matter of minimizing=20
> the risk of an accidental SHUTDOWN. Here MAINT does not have=20
> class A; however it does have class C. That allows it to use=20
> the SET PRIV * +A in order to issue class A commands such as=20
> Q CPDISKS, CPRELEASE and CPACCESS. By requiring that extra=20
> step of the SET PRIV, it heightens the awareness of the=20
> person to the fact that they now have extraordinary=20
> capabilities and responsibilities.
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> Rich has hit the nail directly on the head here.  Accidents=20
> and mistreaks happen, this just puts another door in front of them.
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> --
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> + 1 239 543 1353
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