Your sysprogs would let them?  

Sheesh!  

I must admit, z/VM isn't that hard to setup and run, though getting some expert 
advice upon occasion is well worth every penny you spend on it. 

Check out the zVM Linux cookbook.   Really. :) 

-Paul

On Feb 15, 2010, at 7:52 PM, John McKown wrote:

> I don't have access to a z on which I can do this. Would it be OK to
> load in on Hercules/390, just for learning purposes? 
> 
> My group keeps pushing for zLinux, but the current Linux people (Intel)
> want nothing to do with it. Likely, IMO, due to their perception of lack
> of control over the hardware. Which would be true. I wouldn't want a
> Lintel person, no matter how good, to be setting up z/VM or even the VM
> directory. Of course, they would be "root", not my group (z/OS Tech
> Services). And they might not want to due to other considerations, such
> as backups et al. 
> 
> On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 19:08 -0600, Paul Raulerson wrote:
>> Yes, that is exactly so. You can use it for any purpose, production,
>> test, or development, on as many instances as you like.
>> 
>> 
>> It *is* a winner, really. We run transactional production loads on on
>> zLinux. :)  
>> 
>> 
>> By the way, it is easy to install and configure, especially under
>> z/VM.  Google for the z/VM cookbooks. They are excellent
>> guides, and they provide a really good base to move forward and
>> produce highly customized images from. 
>> 
>> 
>> -Paul
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 2:52 PM, Billy Bingham wrote:
>> 
>>> Paul,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> So you're saying that if I download SLES 11 Eval Version it comes
>>> with a 180 day trial for support, but the software license is free
>>> and I can continue to use it past the 180 day period?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sounds like a winner if so.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Billy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 15 Feb 2010 at 13:31, Paul Raulerson wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Note that "trial" means trial period for support.
>>>> 
>>>> The license is free, you can run it as long as you wish, for any
>>> purpose. Seems odd on a mainframe, but true.  
>>>> 
>>>> And I personally recommend SLES over RedHat. If nothing else, YAST
>>> makes it far easier to manage. 
>>>> 
>>>> -Paul
>>>> 
>>>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 12:30 PM, Rich Smrcina wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 02/15/2010 12:22 PM, Billy Bingham wrote:
>>>>>> I would like to install Linux on z/VM, but I'm not sure what
>>> distribution to use. Is there a free version of SuSE or RedHat Linux
>>> that I can download to do this? Do I need to license a distribution
>>> from the vendor (SuSE or RedHat)?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Billy
>>>>> 
>>>>> You can get a trial of both Novell and RedHat Linux for System z
>>> that come with install support and maintenance for a certain amount
>>> of time.  I think Novell is 120 days.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Rich Smrcina
>>>>> Phone: 414-491-6001
>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina
>>>>> 
>>>>> Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org
>>>>> WAVV 2010 - Apr 9-13, 2010 Covington, KY
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 

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