EXTENT EXTENT TOTAL PAGES HIGH %
VOLID RDEV START END PAGES IN USE PAGE USED
------ ---- ---------- ---------- ------ ------ ------ ----
VM6PG1 9F86 1 10016 1761K 1175K 1761K 66%
VM6PG2 9F87 0 0 180 180 180 100%
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SUMMARY 1761K 1175K 66%
USABLE 1761K 1175K 66%
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 11:56:46
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Mike At HammockTree
<[email protected]> wrote:
> (I use MAINT too much......)
>
> If your SRM STORBUFF values are as you say, then STORBUFF is unlikely to be
> causing the problem, although still possible. The next time the problem
> occurs, do the
> CP IND
> and check for an Eligible list. If the E3 numbers are non-zero, then try
> raising the STORBUFF values further, as Davd suggested (300% 300% 300%).
>
> Mike
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Tate" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 11:42 AM
> Subject: Re: CP unresponsive on certain guests
>
>
> CP Q ALLOC PAGE gives me "invalid option - alloc".
>
> I didnt set the SRM variables; the consultant who initially came in to
> set this up might have.
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Mike At HammockTree
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, that is probably where he needs to end up Dave, but I'm a little
>> hesitant to recommend the 300% for Q3 without feeling more comfortable
>> about
>> his paging subsystem... Moving a couple of large guests from the E-list to
>> in-Q could cause a increase in paging that he may or may not be configured
>> to handle.
>>
>> Mike
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Jones" <[email protected]>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 11:08 AM
>> Subject: Re: CP unresponsive on certain guests
>>
>>
>>> Actually, Mike, he may be better off (a bit, at least) by setting
>>> STORBUFF 300 300 300.
>>>
>>> On 09/16/2010 09:58 AM, Mike At HammockTree wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Since the STORBUF setting is exactly the values I suggested, I suspect
>>>> you applied the
>>>> SET SRM STORBUFF 300% 250% 200%
>>>> prior to doing the
>>>> Q SRM
>>>>
>>>> With the current setting for STORBUFF, are you still experiencing the
>>>> problem?
>>>>
>>>> Also, on a related note, what does your zVM paging system look like?
>>>> The output of
>>>> CP Q ALLOC PAGE
>>>> will provide the information
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Tate" <[email protected]>
>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 10:52 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: CP unresponsive on certain guests
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Output of Q SRM
>>>>
>>>> q srm
>>>> IABIAS : INTENSITY=90%; DURATION=2
>>>> LDUBUF : Q1=100% Q2=75% Q3=60%
>>>> STORBUF: Q1=300% Q2=250% Q3=200%
>>>> DSPBUF : Q1=32767 Q2=32767 Q3=32767
>>>> DISPATCHING MINOR TIMESLICE = 5 MS
>>>> MAXWSS : LIMIT=9999%
>>>> ...... : PAGES=999999
>>>> XSTORE : 0%
>>>> Ready; T=0.01/0.01 09:49:05
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Dave Jones <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi, Daniel.
>>>>>
>>>>> The answer to your first question is to use the CP FORCE command (HELP
>>>>> CP FORCE will tell you all about it.) The VM user id issuing the FORCE
>>>>> command needs to have privilege class A as well. Usually this is done
>>>>> from either MAINT or OPERATOR.
>>>>>
>>>>> The answer to your second question is a bit more difficult, I'm afraid.
>>>>> As Marcy has already suggested, what does a Q SRM command show? My
>>>>> first
>>>>> guess would be that your SLES11 guest is falling into Q3 and never
>>>>> given
>>>>> an opportunity to run.
>>>>>
>>>>> To find out *why* the guest is not able to run, you need the services
>>>>> of
>>>>> a good z/VM performance monitor.....IBM offers the Performance Monitor
>>>>> (it comes bundles with z/VM, but it's an extra cost offering) and
>>>>> Velocity Software (http://www.velocity-software.com/) has a very good
>>>>> suite of products as well. IMHO it' practically impossible to run a
>>>>> modern production grade z/VM-zLinux system without a good performance
>>>>> monitor to help solve issues like the one your having now.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 09/15/2010 05:14 PM, Daniel Tate wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We're starting to run apps on the servers now. From time to time a
>>>>>> guest will become unresponsive - to be more precise, ,the CP will not
>>>>>> respond to commands, and neither will the guest OS (SLES11). not
>>>>>> even #CP LOGOFF is acknowledged. from another login, CP INDIIC LOAD
>>>>>> shows no appreciable load.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Two questions from this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) how would I force a logoff of a user from another user? Is this
>>>>>> possible?
>>>>>> 2) if we are not paging and the IFLs are not loaded (2-3% utilization
>>>>>> as a matter of fact) what could the bottleneck be?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Dave Jones
>>>>> V/Soft Software
>>>>> www.vsoft-software.com
>>>>> Houston, TX
>>>>> 281.578.7544
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dave Jones
>>> V/Soft Software
>>> www.vsoft-software.com
>>> Houston, TX
>>> 281.578.7544
>>>
>>>
>>
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