I would just add that for any significant number of z/Linux guests it is 
imperative that you have a robust paging subsystem and enough spool space to 
hold CP dumps as well as other spool files.  

Having a well configured paging subsystem will greatly reduce the possibility 
of issues when your system has a high paging rate due to the over commitment of 
Available Real Memory versus the total memory of all users running in the LPAR 
combined.

The higher this over commitment ratio the more paging is introduced. The good 
news is as long as you have a sufficient paging subsystem z/VM handles paging 
nicely even at relatively high rates. So over commitment of real memory in z/VM 
is good just keep an eye out so that the ratio stays within reason. 

  

 

Thank You,

Terry Martin
Lockheed Martin - Citic
z/OS and z/VM Performance Tuning and Operating Systems Support
Office - 443 348-2102
Cell - 443 632-4191


-----Original Message-----
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Daniel Tate
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 10:52 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: CP unresponsive on certain guests

Output of Q  SRM

q srm
IABIAS : INTENSITY=90%; DURATION=2
LDUBUF : Q1=100% Q2=75% Q3=60%
STORBUF: Q1=300% Q2=250% Q3=200%
DSPBUF : Q1=32767 Q2=32767 Q3=32767
DISPATCHING MINOR TIMESLICE = 5 MS
MAXWSS : LIMIT=9999%
...... : PAGES=999999
XSTORE : 0%
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 09:49:05


On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Dave Jones <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi, Daniel.
>
> The answer to your first question is to use the CP FORCE command (HELP
> CP FORCE will tell you all about it.) The VM user id issuing the FORCE
> command needs to have privilege class A as well.  Usually this is done
> from either MAINT or OPERATOR.
>
> The answer to your second question is a bit more difficult, I'm afraid.
> As Marcy has already suggested, what does a Q SRM command show? My first
> guess would be that your SLES11 guest is falling into Q3 and never given
> an opportunity to run.
>
> To find out *why* the guest is not able to run, you need the services of
> a good z/VM performance monitor.....IBM offers the Performance Monitor
> (it comes bundles with z/VM, but it's an extra cost offering) and
> Velocity Software (http://www.velocity-software.com/) has a very good
> suite of products as well. IMHO it' practically impossible to run a
> modern production grade z/VM-zLinux system without a good performance
> monitor to help solve issues like the one your having now.
>
> On 09/15/2010 05:14 PM, Daniel Tate wrote:
>> We're starting to run apps on the servers now.  From time to time a
>> guest will become unresponsive - to be more precise, ,the CP will not
>> respond to commands, and neither will the guest OS (SLES11).   not
>> even #CP LOGOFF is acknowledged.   from another login, CP INDIIC LOAD
>> shows no appreciable load.
>>
>> Two questions from this:
>>
>> 1) how would I force a logoff of a user from another user?  Is this possible?
>> 2) if we are not paging and the IFLs are not loaded (2-3% utilization
>> as a matter of fact) what could the bottleneck be?
>>
>
> --
> Dave Jones
> V/Soft Software
> www.vsoft-software.com
> Houston, TX
> 281.578.7544
>

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