It was to create a clear separation from the rest of the system. I'm not
saying it was the best solution, it was the most expedient. I can
certainly change it. I can't use DDR though - the guest is using
emulated 3380 and the rest of the DASD on the system is 3390. I can't
DDR copy from dissimilar volumes.

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Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 2:01 PM
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Subject: Re: DEDICATED DASD - How to backup?


Why use DEDICATE? You could possibly use MDISK with the DEVNO to make
each disk a full volume minidisk. Then LINK to it RR from another guest,
such as CMS and use DDR.
 
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        From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of KEETON Dave * SDC
        Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 3:56 PM
        To: [email protected]
        Subject: Re: DEDICATED DASD - How to backup?
        
        
        I have a maintenance window of two days a month in which I COULD
shutdown the guest, but it'll meet with resistance I'm sure. The hope
was to back it up daily. There's a total of 42  3380 volume currently.
         
        As to the OS, it's VM 3.1 ... yeah, old stuff! We're migrating a
customer from their old mainframe. This is a temporary solution.
         
        Dave

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        From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gentry, Stephen
        Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 1:53 PM
        To: [email protected]
        Subject: Re: DEDICATED DASD - How to backup?
        
        

        Can the guest be shutdown to do a backup?  If so, try defining a
full pack minidisk on the dedicated drive and then use vm:backup to
backup the minidisk.

        Does the guest OS have a backup utility?  (You didn't mention
what the OS of the guest is).

         

        From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of KEETON Dave * SDC
        Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 4:48 PM
        To: [email protected]
        Subject: DEDICATED DASD - How to backup?

         

        I have a guest OS running on 3380 DASD. All of the DASD is
defined with DEDICATE statements to that guest only. I'm now trying to
determine how to backup that guest. I have the CA VM:Backup (with HiDRO)
product, but I'm told it probably won't work because the guest has no
minidisks. We have a VTS here, so all the data will be written to
virtual tape using the DFSMS/VM (RMS) and CA's VM:Tape.

        Does anyone have any suggestions? 

        Thanks in advance, 
        Dave Keeton 

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