The guests that the 2nd-level system is running are CMS users and
applications. It seems logical to me that if a weekly backup was
scheduled when the users are not online and working, the system could be
quiesced and backups could be taken. This is what they did when the
system was moved to our z10. They logged off all non-system users and
did DDR backups. When we restored to our system, it came up without
issue.

-----Original Message-----
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Alan Altmark
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 8:18 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: DEDICATED DASD - How to backup?

On Monday, 09/20/2010 at 04:56 EDT, KEETON Dave * SDC
<[email protected]> wrote:
> I have a maintenance window of two days a month in which I  COULD
shutdown the 
> guest, but it'll meet with resistance I'm sure. The hope was  to back 
> it
up 
> daily. There's a total of 42  3380 volume  currently.
>  
> As to the OS, it's VM 3.1 ... yeah, old stuff! We're  migrating a
customer from 
> their old mainframe. This is a temporary  solution.

You really don't want to back up that system while it's running.  You
need all the data to be consistent, and that only happens when the VM
system is down.  Even forgetting warm start/checkpoint data, remember
that the guests it is running also have data on minidisks that needs to
be consistent.

Alan Altmark

z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant
IBM System Lab Services and Training
ibm.com/systems/services/labservices
office: 607.429.3323
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