Hi, George.

Unfortunately SPXTAPE only supports tape as an output device. The IBM
supplied SDF files (CMS, GCS, SCEE, NLSAMEGN, etc.) can be regenerated
using VM/SES tools and procedures.

As Brian mentioned you could also use the DCSSBKUP /DCSSRSAV utilities
as well. You could also grab a copy of the SFB spool file backup/restore
utility from here:

http://www.vsoft-software.com/downloads.html

It saves the backed up SDF files to CMS files that you can then move
from system to system.

Have a good one, too.

On 10/06/2010 09:46 AM, George Henke/NYLIC wrote:
> I IPLed L2 COLD, because I did not have the extra SPOOL volumes yet to 
> come up FORCE.
> 
> So I do not have the SDF.
> 
> I suppose I could SPXTAPE DUMP them from L1, except I do not have any 
> tape.
> 
> Can I redirect SPXTAPE to disk to port the SDF to L2?.
>  
> 
> 
> 
> Brian Nielsen <[email protected]> 
> Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System <[email protected]>
> 10/05/2010 04:29 PM
> Please respond to
> The IBM z/VM Operating System <[email protected]>
> 
> 
> To
> [email protected]
> cc
> 
> Subject
> Re: IPL VM/VM Issues
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> As others have pointed out, your L2 guest can't hurt your L1 system or 
> 
> other guests unless L2 has access to those disks.  Stating it from a 
> different angle - you should never give your L2 guest access to anything 
> 
> you don't want it to have access to.  It's no different than keeping your
>  
> z/OS and Linux guests from stepping on each other or your L1 system.  Thi
> s 
> guest just happens to be running VM.
> 
> For your IPL, if you've DDR'd your SPOOL volumes from L1 to L2, there is 
> 
> no reason to do a COLD start.  Do a FORCE start instead.  Otherwise you 
> 
> need to rebuild or SPXTAPE LOAD the SDF files.
> 
> For TCP, what happens depends on what you have set up for your L2 guest. 
>  
> If you gave it access to a real hardware (OSA, hipersocket, etc) then you
>  
> have other work to do to prevent IP conflicts.  If instead you've given i
> t 
> access to a disconnected VSWITCH and/or virtual LAN, then it won't cause 
> 
> any problems because it can't connect to anything.  And, yes, defining 
> 
> GRAFs and using DIAL is a standard practice.
> 
> Something you might want to look into is setting up your system so it 
> recognizes whether it's at L1 or L2 or at DR so that it does the "right 
> 
> thing" for that situation.  There's several ways to do that, but you've 
> 
> gone down the path of diverging your L2 system from your L1 system.  At m
> y 
> site I have it setup so that I can DDR my L1 system into my L2 guest, int
> o 
> a couple different setups at my DR site, or into some unknown site, and i
> t 
> comes up the way I want it to in each instance even if the others are 
> running.  It makes life easier.  What you're doing is a great learning 
> 
> experience, and eventually you'll see the value in making your multiple 
> 
> systems easier to manage.
> 
> Brian Nielsen
> 
> 
> On Tue, 5 Oct 2010 15:28:01 -0400, George Henke/NYLIC 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> L2 is a cloned L1 directory except for the volsers in the Directory and 
> CF
>> Parm files which have all been made unique, ie 540 becoming 54X.
>>
>> I plan to ipl as follows:
>>
>> system reset
>> term conmode 3270
>> set mach esa
>> I 125b clear loadparm 009
>>
>> START COLD DRAIN
>>
>> To be safe, I suppose I should also add NOAUTO.
>>
>> L1 runs 5 z/OS machines and 3 Linuxes.
>>
>> They could be corrupted at L1 if I tried to bring them up in L2 at the
>> same time  without GRS, MIM, or some other serialization product.
>>
>> I doubt TCPIP will work at L2 without some reconfiguring.
>>
>> So I should define some GRAFs and dial them.
>>
>> Not sure if my L2 entry in the L1 Directory needs 54XRES, 54XPAG, 54XSPL
> ,
>> 54XW01, 54XW02 or whether I can just specify the IPL vplume, 54XRES, and
> 
>> CP finds the rest from the Parm disk.
> 
> 

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Dave Jones
V/Soft Software
www.vsoft-software.com
Houston, TX
281.578.7544

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