Thanks Bill.  I will say that I am in fact seeing some of the same issues that 
you mention as possible issues when running above the memory limit in my 
current configuration at 130G. 

Most of this is due to our major over commit ratio hence paging delays for us. 
So my hope was to reduce the over commit by adding more real memory, but I am 
starting to get concerned now doing this. I don't what else to do to relieve 
this other than adding more memory. What is your thought, should I be worried ? 

Thank You,

Terry Martin
Lockheed Martin - Citic
z/OS and z/VM Performance Tuning and Operating Systems Support
Office - 443 348-2102
Cell - 443 632-4191


-----Original Message-----
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Bill Holder
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 6:21 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Max REAL STORAGE for z/VM LPAR

Known scalability issues as size increases above 256GB
primarily involve z/VM's page replacement algorithms 
including the "Reorder" and "Demand Scan" functions;
known symptoms include things like excessive system CPU
overhead decreasing overall throughput, and temporary 
guest hangs as CP tasks process resources belonging 
to guests with very large numbers of pages resident.  
Other symptoms may be possible as well, depending on
workload characteristics; we haven't experimented with, 
measured, and analyzed all that many different kinds of
workloads in such large environments.

Regarding running right at 256GB, that is a supported
environment, so should any issues occur, contact us via
the usual support channels and we'll work with you to
resolve them.  Some of the same scalability issues can
indeed manifest to some extent at sizes below 256GB, 
depending on workload, but generally to a degree that 
is more manageable and can be "tuned around".

We understand the need to increase the supported 
storage size above the current 256GB limit.  

- Bill Holder, z/VM Development, IBM Endicott 

On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 17:00:36 -0400, Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
<[email protected]> wrote:

>So the question is if for some reason you go over that 256G say to 265G
what issues will you see, and how will the manifest themselves?
>
>And if I stay right at 256G will I see any issues being that it is right
 at
the max?
>
> 
>
>Thank You,
>
>Terry Martin
>Lockheed Martin - Citic
>z/OS and z/VM Performance Tuning and Operating Systems Support
>Office - 443 348-2102
>Cell - 443 632-4191
>
>

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