Hello!
Sadly Jeff, I am prepared to admit to nothing. However seeing the webpage
brought about an interesting thing. About the time it surfaced I
participated in a round of discussions concerning IBM's attempts to write
software for both sides via a GUI. I believe it was called Value Age, or
something of a sort, its way before Eclipse.

Anyway the page more or less confirmed it when it showed that the only
downloads for it were for OS/2 and Windows 95, which certainly agreed with
the resulting discussions.

Incidentally I did see a series of other related downloads, some of them
were in fact tagged as coming from this august gathering. 

Just for fun I am tempted to assemble a virtual machine containing either
OS/2 or Win95 and see what does happen and why.
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Gregg C Levine [email protected]
"This signature is not the same one. Move along! Move along!"

> -----Original Message-----
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[email protected]]
> On Behalf Of Jeff Gribbin
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 7:54 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [IBMVM] The old VM/ESA CMS GUI - Does it still live?
> 
> Greetings folks,
> Some recent discussion brought to mind the old CMS GUI Facility that
shipped
> with VM/ESA 2.1 - and now I'm in a position where I might for the first
time
> actually be able to configure a z/VM system to allow me to play with the
> beast, I got to wondering if it even still exists.
> 
> The best I've been able to find in the way of IBM documentation is:
> 
> http://www.vm.ibm.com/gui/
> 
> I found an interesting reference to a 2004 z/VM GUI project -
> 
> http://web2.clarkson.edu/projects/cosi/zTeam/zvmgui/
> 
> but alas that seems to have since sunk without trace.
> 
> So ... a few questions ...
> 
> Anybody using it?
> Anybody prepared to admit they're using it?
> Anybody know if it's still maintained in any current form?
> 
> This is purely a personal learning exercise triggered by the
aforementioned
> conversation and my recent exposure to young sysprogs (< 25 years old) who
> tend to love what CP and CMS can do but fall about laughing whenever the
> user interface is discussed. All comments gratefully received.
> 
> Regards
> Jeff

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