I would try a DIRM RLDE first...  that should rebuild the VCONTROL files...
   I'm 'pretty' sure it erases them all first --- but if not - then yes, you
can erase them, though I would report it as a bug and leave one around to be
able to recreate.

Scott Rohling

On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 9:20 AM, <joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org> wrote:

> You can erase them but you will have to take down DIRMAINT first
>
> *Joseph Di Pippo
> Operating Systems Programmer III
> FRIT Computing Services
> z/OS, z/VM, Hardware Support
> 1-201-531-3820*
>
>
>
> From:        Karl Kingston <karlkings...@ongov.net>
> To:        IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Date:        04/08/2011 11:11 AM
> Subject:        Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD
> Sent by:        The IBM z/VM Operating System <IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU>
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> Found them.     So how do I get rid of them?
>
>
>
>
>
> From:        joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org
> To:        IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Date:        04/08/2011 11:08 AM
> Subject:        Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD
> Sent by:        The IBM z/VM Operating System <IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU>
>  ------------------------------
>
>
>
> Karl,
>
> The VCONTROL files can be found on the DIRMAINT 1DF minidisk.
>
> LINK * 1DF 1DF RR
> ACCESS 1DF m
> FILELIST * * m *
>
> Joseph Di Pippo
> Operating Systems Programmer III
> FRIT Computing Services
> z/OS, z/VM, Hardware Support
> 1-201-531-3820*
>
>
>
> From:        Karl Kingston <karlkings...@ongov.net>
> To:        IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Date:        04/08/2011 11:05 AM
> Subject:        Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD
> Sent by:        The IBM z/VM Operating System <IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU>
>  ------------------------------
>
>
>
> VCONTROL file?  where do I find this?
>
>
>
>
>
> From:        joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org
> To:        IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Date:        04/08/2011 11:00 AM
> Subject:        Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD
> Sent by:        The IBM z/VM Operating System <IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU>
>  ------------------------------
>
>
>
> Karl,
>
> You are saying that at not time in the past, these volumes were not
> referenced in any of your user directory entries? What is the creation date
> of the vcontrol file? *
>
> Joseph Di Pippo
> Operating Systems Programmer III
> FRIT Computing Services
> z/OS, z/VM, Hardware Support
> 1-201-531-3820*
>
>
>
> From:        Karl Kingston <karlkings...@ongov.net>
> To:        IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Date:        04/08/2011 10:57 AM
> Subject:        Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD
> Sent by:        The IBM z/VM Operating System <IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU>
>  ------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yes, the DIRMAP shows:
>
> VM1L0A   3390                                 0       1112       1113 Gap
>
> 0----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> VM1L06   3390                                 0       1112       1113 Gap
>
> 0----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> VM1L07   3390                                 0       1112       1113 Gap
>
> 0----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> VM1L08   3390                                 0       1112       1113 Gap
>
> 0----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> VM1L09   3390                                 0       1112       1113 Gap
>
> 0----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> But why are they there?   They're not supposed to be there.
>
>
>
>
> From:        joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org
> To:        IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Date:        04/08/2011 10:54 AM
> Subject:        Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD
> Sent by:        The IBM z/VM Operating System <IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU>
>  ------------------------------
>
>
>
> Karl,
>
> Did you run a DIRM DIRMAP? *
>
>
> Joseph Di Pippo
> Operating Systems Programmer III
> FRIT Computing Services
> z/OS, z/VM, Hardware Support
> 1-201-531-3820*
>
>
>
> From:        Karl Kingston <karlkings...@ongov.net>
> To:        IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Date:        04/08/2011 10:47 AM
> Subject:        Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD
> Sent by:        The IBM z/VM Operating System <IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU>
>  ------------------------------
>
>
>
> Joe,
>
> Searched the directory but didn't find them.
>
>
>
>
>
> From:        joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org
> To:        IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Date:        04/08/2011 10:44 AM
> Subject:        Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD
> Sent by:        The IBM z/VM Operating System <IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU>
>  ------------------------------
>
>
>
> Karl,
>
> I believe that they are created in response to volume references found in
> one or several of your directory entries. *
>
>
> Joseph Di Pippo
> Operating Systems Programmer III
> FRIT Computing Services
> z/OS, z/VM, Hardware Support
> 1-201-531-3820*
>
>
>
> From:        Karl Kingston <karlkings...@ongov.net>
> To:        IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Date:        04/08/2011 10:39 AM
> Subject:        Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD
> Sent by:        The IBM z/VM Operating System <IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU>
>  ------------------------------
>
>
>
> Bill,
>
> They are not.. Only volumes I have in the SYSTEM CONFIG is the PAGING and
> Spool volumes as well as SYSRES.
>
>
>
>
> From:        william JANULIN <wjanulin0...@yahoo.com>
> To:        IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Date:        04/08/2011 10:34 AM
> Subject:        Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD
> Sent by:        The IBM z/VM Operating System <IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU>
>  ------------------------------
>  Karl,
>
> Are they in your SYSTEM CONFIG file?
>
> Bill J.
>
> --- On *Fri, 4/8/11, Karl Kingston <karlkings...@ongov.net>* wrote:
>
> From: Karl Kingston <karlkings...@ongov.net>
> Subject: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Date: Friday, April 8, 2011, 10:28 AM
>
> Hi All.
>
> Just noticed something when we did a "DIRM FREEXT" to see what free extents
> were and we got this on one of our systems:
>
>  VOLUME DEVTYPE -------------- FREE EXTENTS -------
> $$$$$$ 3380 START= 1 AVAIL= 500
> $$$$$$ 3380 START= 503 AVAIL= 382
> VM1L0A 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112
> VM1L06 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112
> VM1L07 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112
> VM1L08 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112
> VM1L09 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112
> VM2K01 3390-03 START= 1 AVAIL= 3338
> VM2K02 3390-03 START= 1 AVAIL= 3338
> VM2K03 3390-03 START= 1 AVAIL= 3338
> VM2L00 3390-09 START= 6734 AVAIL= 3283
>
>
> In the EXTENT CONTROL file, I have VM2xxx defined but I do not have VM1xxx
> defined.   Even checked the directory and there's no references to these
> DASD.    Why is DIRMAINT picking this up?  And where is it getting its
> information from?    Would like to get them off of this list since they're
> on our other VM system.
>
> Thanks
>
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