And you don't have to take DIRMAINT down to erase files--    you can issue
DIRM CMS ERASE xxx VCONTROL E   (don't have a system handy - I think 1DF is
accessed as E -- otherwise do a DIRM CMS Q DISK or DIRM CMS LISTFILE *
VCONTROL *  to figure it out)

Scott Rohling

On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 9:36 AM, Scott Rohling <scott.rohl...@gmail.com>wrote:

> I would try a DIRM RLDE first...  that should rebuild the VCONTROL files...
>    I'm 'pretty' sure it erases them all first --- but if not - then yes, you
> can erase them, though I would report it as a bug and leave one around to be
> able to recreate.
>
> Scott Rohling
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 9:20 AM, <joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org> wrote:
>
>> You can erase them but you will have to take down DIRMAINT first
>>
>> *Joseph Di Pippo
>> Operating Systems Programmer III
>> FRIT Computing Services
>> z/OS, z/VM, Hardware Support
>> 1-201-531-3820*
>>
>>
>>
>> From:        Karl Kingston <karlkings...@ongov.net>
>> To:        IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
>> Date:        04/08/2011 11:11 AM
>> Subject:        Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD
>> Sent by:        The IBM z/VM Operating System <IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> Found them.     So how do I get rid of them?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From:        joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org
>> To:        IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
>> Date:        04/08/2011 11:08 AM
>> Subject:        Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD
>> Sent by:        The IBM z/VM Operating System <IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU>
>>  ------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> Karl,
>>
>> The VCONTROL files can be found on the DIRMAINT 1DF minidisk.
>>
>> LINK * 1DF 1DF RR
>> ACCESS 1DF m
>> FILELIST * * m *
>>
>> Joseph Di Pippo
>> Operating Systems Programmer III
>> FRIT Computing Services
>> z/OS, z/VM, Hardware Support
>> 1-201-531-3820*
>>
>>
>>
>> From:        Karl Kingston <karlkings...@ongov.net>
>> To:        IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
>> Date:        04/08/2011 11:05 AM
>> Subject:        Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD
>> Sent by:        The IBM z/VM Operating System <IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU>
>>  ------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> VCONTROL file?  where do I find this?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From:        joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org
>> To:        IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
>> Date:        04/08/2011 11:00 AM
>> Subject:        Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD
>> Sent by:        The IBM z/VM Operating System <IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU>
>>  ------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> Karl,
>>
>> You are saying that at not time in the past, these volumes were not
>> referenced in any of your user directory entries? What is the creation date
>> of the vcontrol file? *
>>
>> Joseph Di Pippo
>> Operating Systems Programmer III
>> FRIT Computing Services
>> z/OS, z/VM, Hardware Support
>> 1-201-531-3820*
>>
>>
>>
>> From:        Karl Kingston <karlkings...@ongov.net>
>> To:        IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
>> Date:        04/08/2011 10:57 AM
>> Subject:        Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD
>> Sent by:        The IBM z/VM Operating System <IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU>
>>  ------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, the DIRMAP shows:
>>
>> VM1L0A   3390                                 0       1112       1113 Gap
>>
>> 0----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> VM1L06   3390                                 0       1112       1113 Gap
>>
>> 0----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> VM1L07   3390                                 0       1112       1113 Gap
>>
>> 0----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> VM1L08   3390                                 0       1112       1113 Gap
>>
>> 0----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> VM1L09   3390                                 0       1112       1113 Gap
>>
>> 0----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> But why are they there?   They're not supposed to be there.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From:        joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org
>> To:        IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
>> Date:        04/08/2011 10:54 AM
>> Subject:        Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD
>> Sent by:        The IBM z/VM Operating System <IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU>
>>  ------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> Karl,
>>
>> Did you run a DIRM DIRMAP? *
>>
>>
>> Joseph Di Pippo
>> Operating Systems Programmer III
>> FRIT Computing Services
>> z/OS, z/VM, Hardware Support
>> 1-201-531-3820*
>>
>>
>>
>> From:        Karl Kingston <karlkings...@ongov.net>
>> To:        IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
>> Date:        04/08/2011 10:47 AM
>> Subject:        Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD
>> Sent by:        The IBM z/VM Operating System <IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU>
>>  ------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> Joe,
>>
>> Searched the directory but didn't find them.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From:        joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org
>> To:        IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
>> Date:        04/08/2011 10:44 AM
>> Subject:        Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD
>> Sent by:        The IBM z/VM Operating System <IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU>
>>  ------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> Karl,
>>
>> I believe that they are created in response to volume references found in
>> one or several of your directory entries. *
>>
>>
>> Joseph Di Pippo
>> Operating Systems Programmer III
>> FRIT Computing Services
>> z/OS, z/VM, Hardware Support
>> 1-201-531-3820*
>>
>>
>>
>> From:        Karl Kingston <karlkings...@ongov.net>
>> To:        IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
>> Date:        04/08/2011 10:39 AM
>> Subject:        Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD
>> Sent by:        The IBM z/VM Operating System <IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU>
>>  ------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill,
>>
>> They are not.. Only volumes I have in the SYSTEM CONFIG is the PAGING and
>> Spool volumes as well as SYSRES.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From:        william JANULIN <wjanulin0...@yahoo.com>
>> To:        IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
>> Date:        04/08/2011 10:34 AM
>> Subject:        Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD
>> Sent by:        The IBM z/VM Operating System <IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU>
>>  ------------------------------
>>  Karl,
>>
>> Are they in your SYSTEM CONFIG file?
>>
>> Bill J.
>>
>> --- On *Fri, 4/8/11, Karl Kingston <karlkings...@ongov.net>* wrote:
>>
>> From: Karl Kingston <karlkings...@ongov.net>
>> Subject: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD
>> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
>> Date: Friday, April 8, 2011, 10:28 AM
>>
>> Hi All.
>>
>> Just noticed something when we did a "DIRM FREEXT" to see what free
>> extents were and we got this on one of our systems:
>>
>>  VOLUME DEVTYPE -------------- FREE EXTENTS -------
>> $$$$$$ 3380 START= 1 AVAIL= 500
>> $$$$$$ 3380 START= 503 AVAIL= 382
>> VM1L0A 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112
>> VM1L06 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112
>> VM1L07 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112
>> VM1L08 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112
>> VM1L09 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112
>> VM2K01 3390-03 START= 1 AVAIL= 3338
>> VM2K02 3390-03 START= 1 AVAIL= 3338
>> VM2K03 3390-03 START= 1 AVAIL= 3338
>> VM2L00 3390-09 START= 6734 AVAIL= 3283
>>
>>
>> In the EXTENT CONTROL file, I have VM2xxx defined but I do not have VM1xxx
>> defined.   Even checked the directory and there's no references to these
>> DASD.    Why is DIRMAINT picking this up?  And where is it getting its
>> information from?    Would like to get them off of this list since they're
>> on our other VM system.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
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