Peter and Clyde,

Thanks for the votes of confidence, but I can't quite agree.   There are lots 
of holes in my knowlege.  But I always try to balance "doing it right" with 
practicality. 

I learned from people whom I consider to truly be experts and good craftsmen.  
San Francisco Bay beats the crap out of boats' rigging hulls and engines, and 
if a boatyard takes shortcuts here, it comes back to bite them.  We sail in 
"fresh gale" conditions every day in the summer.

I've learned alot from books and from folks like:  

Rigger Brion Toss; Rigger and solo-world-racer Bruce Schwab; and various people 
at Svendsen's Boat Yard like Bill Frick (fiberglass), Wilson (fine joinery and 
various stuff) , Ray;  Cree at Berkeley Marine Center, Arne Jonnson 
(amazing custom boatbuilder ) and his son Joakim (who passed away a year or two 
ago), and others whose names I forget ....  and I read the ABYC codes when I 
need to know who to do something safely... and I have occassionally asked 
advice from local NA's like Jim Antrim and Tom Wylie... and don't forget the 
tech support folks at West Systems who graciously answer my questions.

Those guys are REAL experts!  I'm just a wanna be.

Fair winds, 

Judy B
1977 C27 TR Bijou.  





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From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 8:26:42 AM
Subject: Re: [IC27A] Re: Source of the Catalina smile.





Judy

I'm with Clyde on this.

I'm a degreed Nav Arch, my dad is a licensed surveyor, and we both got our PE 
licenses (somewhat late in life), but every time I have a question about the 
Catalina your site is the first place I check, and anything I've adopted, dad 
has concurred.

So 2 votes for expert.

Peter B Zahn, PE
#2622 SNAGGLEPUSS
STD / Dinette/ OB/ Tilller

-----Original Message-----
From: Clyde Thorington <cthor...@att. net>
To: ic...@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sun, 10 May 2009 9:35 pm
Subject: Re: [IC27A] Re: Source of the Catalina smile.







Judy - I take exception to your comment "I am no expert."  If you are  not you 
are really
close to it.  Have been on and reading C27 and C3l0 lists for over about 
fourteen years and your
reasoned well thought out comments plus all the great well planned work you 
have done on your C27 put yo u right up there.  Keep up the great work.


Clyde Thorington
ex C27 now C30
San Jose, CA
.









--- On Sun, 5/10/09, Judith Blumhorst, DC <drju...@blumhorst. com> wrote:

From: Judith Blumhorst, DC <drju...@blumhorst. com>
Subject: Re: [IC27A] Re: Source of the Catalina smile.
To: ic...@yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, May 10, 2009, 12:45 PM


The bilge in my boat sometimes has a little water. I wouldn't worry about it 
unless you see a lot of rust.  My '77 has new(ish) SS bolts and the bilge isn't 
perfectly dry.  the bolts look fine.

Here's my advice (and I'm not an expert by any means):

If there's no crack, there's no stagnant water getting at the bolts.  As long 
as the water isn't deep, there's oxygen in it.  The SS bolts should last a 
couple of decades.  I personally wouldn't encase them in huge blobs of epoxy.  
You'd never get the nuts off for inspection.
&n bsp;
As far as I'm aware of, maintenance consists of periodically removing the nuts 
(one at a time) and inspecting the bottom of the bolt for signs of corrosion.  
Then reinstall new washers and nuts, retorque to spec, and seal with a dollop 
of epoxy or polysulfide caulk or Sikaflex 291 LOT(after coating the nut and 
bolt top with releasing agent so you can get it off in a year or two to 
re-inspect)

Also, perform a "sounding" of the bolts by striking them with a metal hammer.  
Good bolts have a ringing sound.  A rusted out bolt will have a "dead" sound.  
It's not perfectly reliable, but it may clue you in about the invisible part of 
the bolt.

Hope this helps.  I'm not an expert like the folks at Svendson's boat works, 
but that's what I've learned hanging around there for more than a decade.  

Fair winds, 
Judy B
SF Bay, CA
http://www.blumhorst.com/catalina27/catalinahomepage.htm




________________________________
From: Joe McCary <j...@photoresponse. com> 
To: ic...@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 11:21:54 AM
Subject: RE: [IC27A] Re: Source of the Catalina smile.


OK, so I have a related question.  My bilge is NEVER dry.  It always has a 
little dirty water in it.  The pump’s “float switch in not a float, but instead 
an electronic sensor that turns on the pump. But the pump runs until it’s water 
intake is dry but there is still a little water in the bilge.  Obviously this 
covers the bottom of the bulge and the SS bolts (she is an ’81) are covered.  
What should I do?  I could completely empty the bilge and pour in some more 
glass to raise the bottom to a level past the nuts and make a sump depression 
for then pump to draw from.  But is that necessary?  This year when I pulled 
the boat I had NO smile.  It has been in the water for at least 2½ years.
 
 
Joe McCary
Aeolus II, West River, MD
joe at photoresponse. co m
www.aeoluswestriver .net 

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