I agree that moving the boat just a few inches made a huge difference on tongue 
weight and axle load. It took us 4 tries to get it right. I will provide some 
measurements and pictures for anyone interested. Seems there are a lot of 
variables to consider.

>>> "Phil Agur" <[email protected]> 7/9/2009 3:09 PM >>>



Mark, 

Tongue weight is going to be mostly governed by the boats placement relative
to the axles. The tongue itself could be a foot longer or shorter and only
change the tongue weight by a few percentage points but moving the boat
versus the axles a foot you can change it 200%. A bit of a SWAG I admit but
I moved Wing Tip forward about a foot to add a 1,000 lbs of tongue weight. I
carry a ton on the gooseneck but I expect your target would be around 750
pounds. I confirmed mine on a track scale by weighing the hitched up boat
and trailer with the truck off the scale and then unhitching for the second
weight.

I would think the most useful measurements for Mike would be the distance
from the rear tip of the keel to the center of the rear axle and then the
center to center axle separation. The slope and the curve on the front of
the keel would make it difficult for you both to measure it the same way.
The rear tip is a nice hard point. Tandem axle trailers tend to all have the
same axle spacing based on available springs, hangers, and fenders but it's
worth double checking.

Phil Agur
<http://www.catalina27.org/public_pages/profile270.htm> s/v Wing Tip 
C270 LE #184 MMSI 366901790 

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mark
Robertson
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 1:04 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [IC27A] Trailer Preparation

Mike you are in luck, Two weeks ago, I just did the very thing you are going
to do. On my boat they lifted it at the foreword end of the cockpit and at
the front end of the cabin.
I welded a 6 inch channel down the center of the trailer on top of the cross
braces to help stiffen the trailer and support the weight. I put a 2x4 board
in the channel for the keel to rest on so the channel legs have to face up.
I adjusted the pads to support the boat with the keel fully resting front to
back on the channel. I had the trailer attached to the truck and we had the
crane move the boat foreword and backward until we had a good balance of
tongue weight and weight distribution between the axles, that took about 4
tries before we got it right. I trailered the boat from Long Beach
California to Salt lake City Utah about 800 miles without any problems . If
you would like I can measure the distance from the ball to the front of the
keel if you would like. I could also give you the dimensions from the ball
to each axle if that helps. I took a large powerboat trailer and modified it
to work for my 27.

>>> MIKE TAYLOR <gard...@flash. <mailto:gardtay%40flash.net> net> 7/9/2009
1:15 PM >>>

I recently purchased a trailer and plan to bring my boat home for some
maintenance and refitting at the end of the season. I am beginning to get
the trailer ready to receive the boat. I've been reviewing the "Dimensions
for Lifting Procedure" available on the IC27A website. Am I correct to
assume the boat's longitudinal center of gravity is halfway between the two
designated lifting points on the diagram? Does anyone have an idea how far
forward of the center line between the trailer axles the boat's center of
gravity point should rest?

Thanks for any suggestions you have in getting the trailer ready.

Mike Taylor
C27TR 3589 "Triumphant" 
Lake Tenkiller, OK

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