OK

The shipping thing . . . 

My last boat purchased is 40ft x 11ft by 20,000lbs.  I shipped it 350 miles for 
less than 3grand.  My guess is that you can buy the boat you want for half the 
price here on the Chesapeake, and ship it home - wherever you are, for less 
than 2k

I, however, am holding out hope that the fully rigged racing boats for sale 
around here will be bought by some new young blood to come out and play with us 
old(er) farts!

PZ
#2622 - a dinette and I love it




-----Original Message-----
From: Henry & Lynn Colgan Cohen <[email protected]>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Sent: Wed, Jul 28, 2010 4:59 pm
Subject: Re: [IC27A] Which Catalina - followup.


 


Alan -
     Those prices are rather high, but unless you want to pick up a C27 in 
Chesapeake country and truck it home, you're at the mercy of your local market. 
My wife & I were extremely fortunate, we found a C27 in OK shape that nobody 
wanted. It had the A4 (not usable) and a bracket with a 9.9 OB. We replaced the 
motor that came with our boat with a used Yamaha 9.9 4stroke. Memorial Day 
weekend we motored from Still Pond to Rock Hall (about 22 nm) and averaged over 
6 kt the whole way back. An 8hp should probably do the trick in a C25, with a 
9.9 definitely handling your power needs.
     As far as handling rough weather, I don't know - perhaps others with more 
experience can help you (and me) with that one. The C25  in question sounds 
like a gem, but C27s are far roomier. Best of luck in your boat search!


     Henry & Lynn Cohen
     ; Ceol na Mara (hull #1956)
     Rock Hall MD 
     




On Jul 28, 2010, at 4:28 PM, Alan Rothenbush <[email protected]> wrote:




  
Many thanks to all who responded to my question about the 25 and the 27s!

Here's kind of a blanket followup on a few things, and another question at
the end.

1. I must live in the wrong part of the world, based upon what Catalina
27s sell for here and what it's been suggested I pay for one. 

I have done my homework and the very cheapest Catalina 27 available
anywhere in the area is $8,000, and that's for a right out of the factory
boat with nothing extra and nothing but routine maintenance over the
years. Perhaps it's local price point thing, but "recreational" 27s from
the 70s or early 80s sell for 10k to 12k or so .. all of them.

2. I take the point about sails, and never really thought about it before.
Yeah, just because they're not torn doesn't necessarily mean they're good
for anything, and replacing them is a significant cost.

Sadly, the 25 comes with a brand new spinnaker, never used, a brand new
Dacron genoa cut for a furling setup never installed!, and a new
multi-reef main with 6 hours on it. I say "sadly", because I'm really
trying to find reasons to talk myself out of the 25 and buy a 27, but it's
proving difficult.

I got a bit more of the story on the 25. The current owner is the second
owner, who bought it in 2003 from a fellow who almost never sailed it. He
then did a complete refit, money apparently not being an object. (We'll
leave aside the question of why he would do so to a 25) There's all new
running rigging, all new standing rigging. Since he was going to this
expense, he brought all lines back to the cockpit. He had the upholstery
done. He had custom carpets done. He put in a new toilet with holding
tank and a macerator pump. He added darn near every electronic gizmo of
the day. The hull was stripped and repainted with two coats of epoxy
paint. The list goes one and on.

What he didn't do was sail it.

He claims the boat has 6 hours on it since the refit and I have no reason
to doubt him. It is SO clean it looks new.

But it's still a 25 with an outboard.

And that leads to the questions about motors, really the point of my
original post.

1. Are outboards really that bad for extended motoring periods ?

2. Are outboards really that bad in rough weather?

3. Inboard or outboard, is 10 HP enough if you "get into trouble", or is
the big bad gas engine really what you need?

Thanks again for any thoughts.

Alan

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Alan Rothenbush
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