> Right now it is very icy though. It rained for a days on frozen ground, so
> the moisture didn't sink in but pooled.

Oh, gosh, there's been a big thread on the gaitedhorse list about frostbite 
in horses, and Jeannie posted this story:

Several years ago now, we lost a
foal to the after-affects of frostbite and extreme cold, and it was a
tragedy none of us will ever forget, on several levels .....

Normally, we breed our mares in late April or May, primarily because
of weather conditions .... we don't ordinarily get extreme cold in
that area, but we do get heavy rain in the Winter, and extreme mud ...
which, because the land there at our old place was dead flat adobe
clay and didn't drain,  may not completely dry before mid- April.  So,
we wanted the foals to hit the ground in warm, sunny weather, on firm,
grassy paddocks. In other words, we didn't have full term  foals
arriving in the dead of Winter.

One December, we were having an unusual amount of rain so the ground
was saturated and starting to puddle, and then just before Christmas,
we had a few days of what was extreme cold for our area .... we hit 12
degrees on Christmas Eve in an area where previous record lows ran in
the upper 20's. We had five of our older, open mares down in one
fairly dry paddock next to the barn because they were a little down
from the extreme cold and wet, and we wanted to supplement them.
Normally they would have been inside the barn, but pipes had frozen
and burst the two previous nights, and several of the stalls were
still flooded... we only had two sump pumps, but they were running
full time.  Although this paddock was less wet than most, it still had
a few deep puddles which froze solid in the early morning.

We were all eager to eat breakfast and get to opening packages, so the
whole family piled out to help with the feeding firrst thing Christmas
morning, and after finishing the stalls down the barn aisle, we walked
out the back door to that first paddock, to see all the mares standing
in a circle, facing inward ... and to our horror, lying on the ground
in front of them was a snow white, extremely large and obviously
newborn foal!!!!!

Now, none of these mares were supposedly bred and certainly none had
looked remotely in foal  ... our stallions didn't just  run out with
the girls, and we hand bred most of them, or turned them into a small
breeding pen with one or two mares under very supervised conditions.
Our studs never got loose to run with the mares by accident. We don't
GET surprise pregnancies, and certainly not this big, four months
early!   We lived in an isolated area, with no other stallions within
miles of us, and we SURE would have noticed if we came up with an
extra guy one morning!  To this day, we have no idea where that foal
came from, and it didn't look like anything we'd ever produced ... for
starters, it was HUGE, heavy boned and thickly muscled. Our MFT aren't
usually very big horses at maturity, and the foals we produce are born
refined, and slow growing ... this was a MOOSE.  But, we caught up
each one of the mares, and looked thoroughly for any signs at all of
having given birth, and not one of them was bagged up, swollen, had
signs of bruising or tearing, or even so much as a soiled or damp
tail, and none seemed to be feeling motherly towards the foal.    I
keep pretty close watch on my horses, and a "secret" pregnancy was
pretty hard to imagine, even if one of our studs had been out one day.
  It was a mystery we never solved, and we've always been suspicious
that some stock horse rancher up the highway, who bred for early
foals, had walked out to find this pure white elephant, had a complete
hissyfit, and hauled the thing out, to dump on us. .  That paddock was
a short walk from the road.

But, the mystery of its birth soon took second place to the immediate
crisis ... this newborn foal had an extremely thick, wooly white coat
that had of course been sopping wet at birth... and it was lying in
one of those now-frozen puddles and the wet hair had frozen to the
ground and the foal had been stuck!!!  Clearly, the large, powerful
foal had been struggling for hours to get up, and in the process, as
we soon learned,  had wrenched her spine, as well as torn huge patches
of hair from her skin, so that when she collapsed back onto the
ground, her bare, exposed skin had frozen.  The upper side of her body
looked fine, but when we finally got her up,  on the underside of her
body where she been lying flat out on the ground, the bare skin was
all black, dry, and dead-looking, in huge patches.

by the time we discovered this poor creature, the sun was coming up
and it was warming up enough that we were able to break her loose and
help her partially up, but she was too weak to stand, so we had to
find a sheet of plywood and make up a sort of skid,  and then we slid
the foal onto the wood and dragged her into a stall in the barn, while
one of the kids ran  for the phone to  find a vet.... not an easy
task, on Christmas morning!  Guess not many vets believed a pre-teen
who called to say we had a foal frozen stuck to the ground!  Only one
of the mares was even remotely interested in the whole activity by
this time, and so by process of elimination when she turned to watch
us hauling the foal out of the paddock, we grabbed her up and brought
her into the barn with the foal.  She'd had a foal the previous year,
but we'd become concerned that she was losing so much weight that
season ... a very, very gentle mare, she certainly hadn't looked as if
she was carrying this huge foal and  didn't have "a bag" but after a
few hormone injections, she began producing a little milk, and after
several minutes of confusion, did stand and allow the foal to attempt
nursing.  We were never completely convinced she was the mother, but
she did begin producing milk, with the stimulation.

I'll shorten the long, sad story, to say that the foal was never well
enough to stand up on her own.  Her hips and hind legs were too weak
to lift her considerable weight.   We contemplated taking her to
UCDavis Vet School, but the vet felt that the long trip would probably
kill her, it wouldn't do anything to improve her chances and was quite
frankly, a waste of money.  If she did somehow survive, great ... but
her chances were almost nil..  We did hope that we could save her, but
she just went from bad to worse.  If we lifted her up and held her
upright for a while, she could stagger over to the mare, but she
couldn't get up on her own.  The vet who did finally agree to come
out, stayed for half a day and set us up with the frozen colostrum and
medications and came out each day for a week, and we all took turns
staying out in the barn 24/7, to get the foal back up every hour to
feed , but she got progressively weaker each day, and only lived about
12 days.  It wasn't anything to do with Lethal White syndrome, it was
the damage from the frostbite and the exposure.


So, in this case ... we can be pretty certain the frostbite came from
complete hair loss, and we suspect the tissue damage went a lot deeper
than just those surface layers of exposed newborn skin.  She probably
had organ damage as well, but we couldn't bring ourselves to
subjecting her to autopsy.

Jeannie

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Judy
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